• eyesaremosaics@lemmy.zip
    8 days

    Meh, it shouldn’t be normalised, it’s degrading and copy cats will absolutely do it in non consensual ways. This is well into the realm of BDSM, and needs clearly established consent, not some move that people will pull out at random because they saw it in a screen

    • autriyo@feddit.org
      8 days

      If you ask medical professionals , nearly any amount of choking is pretty unsafe/not worth the risk.

      Obviously putting your hands there and pretending isn’t a problem, bit anything harder carries substantial risk.

        • Nine@lemmy.world
          8 days

          No choking of any kind is safe. It’s all edge play.

          There’s a huge difference between a firm hold and chokehold. Giving someone a firm grasp is a safer way of doing that if you’re gonna do that at all. It’s not as dark romance book boyfriend hot, but it has the added benefit of not leading to accidents.

          • thebestaquaman@lemmy.world
            8 days

            There’s a huge difference between a firm hold and chokehold.

            So much this! I think it’s under-communicated that you have this whole spectrum from “placing hand lightly on neck” to “actual strangulation”, and there’s a whole lot of fun to be had without getting close to the dangerous side of that spectrum at all.

          • Gonzako@lemmy.world
            8 days

            Yeah, the cuties ask me for the lack of oxygen high. I’ll keep ya words in mind

            • trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world
              8 days

              The problem is that the average sub has a deathwish and they cum harder in proportion to how close they get to it.

              And then you have to be the party pooper and go “no sweetie I will not be tying a noose around your neck”

    • Alaknár@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      8 days

      Anyone who wants to get into anything even remotely BDSM-y should have mandatory reading of Sunstone first.

      There’s a character there who lost her hands because she wanted to impress her dom boyfriend and tied herself to the bed with self-tightening knots. The boyfriend - not aware of the fact - was home late. By that time she lost strength in her arms, the knots tightened and cut off blood-flow and her hands had to be amputated.

      This shit is sexy and hot, but dangerous if performed by unaware/inexperienced people.

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
    8 days

    The British soap opera “Coronation Street” is doing a related story on this currently. Two kids, 18ish, having sex for the first time and he chokes her and she ends up having a stroke because of it. This is not a natural act but something that is heavily intertwined in the internet porn world and we learn by observation a lot of the times.

  • blueamigafan@lemmy.world
    8 days

    I think its come from the fact that teachers are being approached by teenagers and being asked how they should choke someone during sex, because they think its a normal thing everyone does. Not something some consenting people do.

    Also there have been several high profile cases of woman being strangled to death and the men getting off with light sentences because they say it was a consensual sex game.

  • outlawcarl@fedinsfw.appEnglish
    8 days

    I use to be against this kind of banning thing, but then algatherms. The most shocking stuff gets pushed due to the attention it naturally creates thous normalizing it to people who would not take the care needed for this kind of thing, and as people have said here might not even be safe when done correctly but when you see it getting pushed to teenagers…

  • endless_nameless@lemmy.world
    8 days

    Sexual choking causes brain damage, mainly resulting in emotional dysregulation. Yall ever wondered why every girl who ever asked you to choke her turned out to be fucking psycho?

  • yesman@lemmy.world
    8 days

    Call me old fashioned, but violence in the bedroom should be simulated, not actual. Can a girl consent to being punched? How about stabbed (with a knife) or shot (with a gun)?

    Sexual liberation is about enjoying your body, not permission to become a goddamn Cenobite. Some kinks should be shamed.

    • Kangae_Hishiryo@scribe.disroot.org
      8 days

      Some girls will consent, just as some boys will do.

      I’d die happy being asphyxiated between a pretty girl’s ass or tits. It’s risky but I’d give my consent nevertheless. Stop being sexist by infantilizing girls.

    • Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8 days

      Does the UK government actually differentiate between simulated and actual? Isn’t most porn “fake” anyway and should be presumed to be simulated?

    • AA5B@lemmy.world
      8 days

      Arguably it is. No one expects to be choked literally to death. Just like any other consent/consent play: you consent to being forced, within boundaries - and you really really need a safe word and/or other safeguards. As the dominant, you are morally responsible for adhering to those boundaries, ensuring the safety of your partner, and fulfilling whatever they expect to get from the play

    • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
      8 days

      Knife / edge play is a legitimate kink.

      It is possible to consent to being shot, yes. It is still illegal.

      just like how it’s possible to consent to taking illegal drugs or breaking the speed limit in a car