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19 days

Doing our part

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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/72601186

Creator credit: https://tiktok.com/@twonkcomics

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    • CubitOom@infosec.pubEnglish
      19 days

      • Gladaed@feddit.org
        19 days

        This is misinformation in the sense that caps got attached in order to reduce the likelihood of the bottle cap entering the environment since it is easy to loose, in particular when dumped illegally.

        At least AFAIK.

        Also those are cold gas thrusters meaning they do take electric energy to power the compressors that refill them, not fossil fuels to burn them.

        That being said super cars are a luxury for the medium rich.

          • MightEnlightenYou@lemmy.worldEnglish
            19 days

            I’m glad that you’ve already pointed out the difference between environment and climate

            • crispbacon99@lemmy.zip
              19 days

              Most of society’s electricity IS from fossil fuels. It has to be charged somehow.

              Also the caps were attached to keep the bottle from becoming two separate pieces to help store plastic waste in a more consolidated manner. Also less choking hazards for animals and children.

                • PattyMcB@lemmy.world
                  18 days

                  I was going to say the same thing.

                  It’s amazing how many people just think electricity comes magically from the ether

                    • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
                      18 days

                      It’s amazing how many people just think electricity comes magically from the ether

                      I live in a sensible country, my electricity comes from 98% renewable sources.

                      https://portal.ute.com.uy/

                        • PattyMcB@lemmy.world
                          18 days

                          I’m jealous. Lots of countries aren’t so smart and/or lucky

                            • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
                              18 days

                              Well, all you had to do was learn a foreign language (your fourth), have a job in technology, spend a year preparing, get rid of most of your possessions, abandon your family and friends, move over 10,000 KM, change hemispheres, then find a job before you run out of money, and finally, you too could have spent a year in freedom and then have it all collapse as a part of the pandemic and AI boom.

                              I’m not doing OK. BTW, 19th of November is international men’s day. Maybe if people want the chuds to STFU on march 8th, reach out to people next month.

                        • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldEnglish
                          18 days

                          i’m so excited for when i finally have enough money to buy: an RV with enough solar panels on it to recharge an EV and an EV powerful enough to tow the damn RV.

                          what’s the electric version of rolling coal? blasting Leslie Gore when we pass someone? that will be so fun.

                        • toast@retrolemmy.com
                          19 days

                          *lose

                        • Slashme@lemmy.world
                          18 days

                          Plastic caps being attached to bottles has nothing to do with carbon footprint, it’s to reduce plastic waste in the environment.

                            • mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                              18 days

                              Just incinerate it

                                • Eheran@lemmy.world
                                  18 days

                                  For that it has to be collected first. This way it can not get lost on the way, especially not from the hand of someone drinking.

                                    • 𝔄 𝔰𝔢𝔫𝔱𝔦𝔢𝔫𝔱 𝔭𝔦𝔢𝔠𝔢 𝔬𝔣 𝔠𝔥𝔢𝔢𝔰𝔢@lemmy.world
                                      18 days

                                      Maybe they meant self-incinerating bottles? When you first open it, you got 60 seconds.

                                    • EuroNutellaMan@sh.itjust.works
                                      18 days

                                      Great so we can put the plastic in the air and lungs

                                      • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                        18 days

                                        Your browser does not support playing HTML5 video. You can download the file instead.

                                          • Jiral@lemmy.world
                                            18 days

                                            You can’t incenerate them if they are lying on the beach. Tethered caps are not about the question how caps can be recycled.

                                              • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                18 days

                                                true i just like posting ralph gifs

                                        • Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world
                                          18 days

                                          It’s as empty as musk promises

                                          • Ibuthyr@feddit.org
                                            18 days

                                            When tethered caps are done well, mostly seen on flat-caps for water bottles, they’re actually very convenient. Just flip them over until they click in place and you don’t have to worry about holding them or placing them somewhere. Flip them back to close the bottle.

                                            Unfortunately that often is not the case and then they suck.

                                              • Jiral@lemmy.world
                                                18 days

                                                Tethered screw caps are very easy to use too. It takes a few sec to figure them out.

                                                  • Ibuthyr@feddit.org
                                                    18 days

                                                    True, if they’re made well. Some are shit unfortunately.

                                                      • Jiral@lemmy.world
                                                        18 days

                                                        Well, maybe they don’t sell them here, anyhow, one does not have to buy shitty products. There is choice, at least when it comes to caps.

                                                          • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                                            18 days

                                                            where I live most of them are shit. It’s very rare that they work so good as described above.

                                                              • Jiral@lemmy.world
                                                                18 days

                                                                Maybe it is you then.

                                                                  • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                                                    17 days

                                                                    I don’t think so. all kinds of people are complaining about it sometimes around me.

                                                                      • Jiral@lemmy.world
                                                                        17 days

                                                                        Then also your social circle must be very different from mine.

                                                          • morto@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                            18 days

                                                            I wish we could organize to ignore those idiotic product show-offs from billionaire’s playgrounds. No talking, no commenting, no sharing, living as if it ever happened. This would make those products be abandoned by investors and fade into the nothingness they deserve, along with their ego and all the invested money.

                                                            One can dream…

                                                              • Eheran@lemmy.world
                                                                18 days

                                                                This is the first time I hear about that event. Feels good.

                                                              • humanspiral@lemmy.ca
                                                                18 days

                                                                SpaceX and Xai merger started with the complete fraud that datancenters in space are an economically viable proposition, when even in the US, solar and batteries on leased Nebraska farmland, is over 5x cheaper, even with most optimistic launch cost assumptions.

                                                                Adding jump thrusters to cars is an unrealistic/impractical fraud to justify a spacex tesla merger.

                                                                  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
                                                                    17 days

                                                                    That ignores the part where data centers in space are just stupidly complicated to currently basically being impossible

                                                                    You have to start with little things like network latencies, but when you get to heat dissipation things just get stupid.

                                                                    Then again, stupid impossible is kinda Elmo’s modus operandi. Just claim you’ll do something stupid and or impossible, people will dance for you, then you just get billions to spend a fee years pretending that you’re actually doing it and then you, you know, just dont do it. Elmo musk in a nutshell. IH, that and Hitler babies, that too is his thing

                                                                  • diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
                                                                    18 days

                                                                    Fun fact, the EVs normally have a set of fuses which blow when rolled over. These had to be removed for the demo.

                                                                    EDIT: someone else posted a photo of the demo car itself not even having the high voltage battery installed; in other terms it does not drive.

                                                                    • BoxOfFeet@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                      19 days

                                                                      What caps are attached to bottles? I don’t think I have seen that.

                                                                        • blackbeans@lemmy.zip
                                                                          18 days

                                                                          EU decision. All caps used in single use beverage containers (bottles etc). Around 100 billion bottles per year are used in the EU.

                                                                          The goal is not reduce the carbon footprint, but to reduce litter (loose caps ending in the environment).

                                                                          It is convenient if implemented well, and annoying if not.

                                                                          • bandwidthcrisis@lemmy.world
                                                                            18 days

                                                                            A big thing in Europe now. It might be limited in some areas based on whether the plastic of top and bottle need to be separated for recycling.

                                                                              • Strider@lemmy.world
                                                                                18 days

                                                                                It’s awesome. I love having a few drops of liquid in the cap and the cap being in my face while drinking, the drops on my face now.

                                                                                Also great for people with disabilities who can not hold things that good and caps sometimes snapping back can make a mess eg when pouring.

                                                                                Yes, while it sounds exaggerated I’ve had it all happen sometime. So I tear them off.

                                                                                  • Jiral@lemmy.world
                                                                                    18 days

                                                                                    Disabilities are a weak argument. Depending on which one, tethered caps can be either beneficial or not. In any case, they are relatively easy to tear off, by design. If you aren’t disabled they should be no challenge at all. Indeed I don’t know a single person who feels challenged by them, non of them have them in their face while drinking and I have no idea what drops you are facing either. Surface tension that keeps drops in a cap also keep it there while drinking.

                                                                                      • Strider@lemmy.world
                                                                                        18 days

                                                                                        I am and I have issues with it. So?

                                                                                        I have neurological issues so motor skills don’t work as they should. I could lash back at presumptions but I am tiredly used to it. Also getting downvoted for speaking out.

                                                                                        I also have sensory issues in public transport with the loud beeping on closing doors, which is the cheap way to help (partly) blind people.

                                                                                        It already sucks to be disabled.but what sucks even more is people like you invalidating personal experienced issues because you have no idea.

                                                                                        Deal with your own weak tolerance.

                                                                                • Fallibilist@feddit.uk
                                                                                  18 days

                                                                                  Those thrusters use compressed air.

                                                                                    • diaphragmwp@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
                                                                                      18 days

                                                                                      Manufacture the system. Compress the air. Go on.

                                                                                        • Fallibilist@feddit.uk
                                                                                          18 days

                                                                                          It’s pretty clear the author here is misinformed and thought that those are rocket engines. Just like they were misinformed about why the caps are attached to the bottles.

                                                                                          Them creating this cartoon and posting it online produced CO² as well. Nothing survives that purity test.

                                                                                            • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                              18 days

                                                                                              look i played enough kerbals to recognize a reaction control system when i see one

                                                                                        • Tattorack@lemmy.world
                                                                                          19 days

                                                                                          Why the fuck am I seeing bottle caps getting compared to some billionaire’s vanity project everywhere?

                                                                                            • ominous ocelot@leminal.space
                                                                                              18 days

                                                                                              The direct connection escapes me, too.

                                                                                              It would be more reasonable to compare a measure, that actually helps to reduce trash and co2 footprint with that flying car. Plus: there is no reason to stop it, just because there is one very rich, annoying guy.

                                                                                              The effect of one toy project (look at me I build flying cars. Look at me!) isn’t that big. Like Kanemann said, people are poor intuitive statisticians.

                                                                                              • spankysalmon@fedinsfw.appEnglish
                                                                                                19 days

                                                                                                C’mon, surely you cannot be that dense.

                                                                                              • ominous ocelot@leminal.space
                                                                                                19 days

                                                                                                For me the bigger problem is the plastic bottle attached to the cap.

                                                                                                  • jqubed@lemmy.world
                                                                                                    18 days

                                                                                                    It seemed to be standard in France when we’ve taken my wife’s parents back to visit their hometown

                                                                                                      • ominous ocelot@leminal.space
                                                                                                        18 days

                                                                                                        I’m sorry. But I think you missed my point. I didn’t doubt the attached caps.

                                                                                                          • Jiral@lemmy.world
                                                                                                            18 days

                                                                                                            No, you just sad you had big problems with them, no one I know has.

                                                                                                              • ominous ocelot@leminal.space
                                                                                                                18 days

                                                                                                                No, you just sad you had big problems with them, no one I know has.

                                                                                                                I’m not sad, just tired.

                                                                                                        • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
                                                                                                          18 days

                                                                                                          The Roadster FV uses cold gas thrusters, IE compressed air. There’s no carbon footprint apart from the energy used to run the compressor.

                                                                                                            • Eheran@lemmy.world
                                                                                                              18 days

                                                                                                              “Apart from” is doing a lot of heavy lifting for that carbon footprint, and I mean specially for the action itself, not development or parts. Compressed air is about as inefficient as it gets.

                                                                                                            • crimsonpoodle@pawb.social
                                                                                                              18 days

                                                                                                              It uses conpressed air not c02

                                                                                                                • August27th@lemmy.ca
                                                                                                                  18 days

                                                                                                                  Compressing air for absolutely useful and necessary entertainment purposes is always powered exclusively by carbon free energy now I guess…

                                                                                                                    • Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works
                                                                                                                      18 days

                                                                                                                      Are you opposed to EVs in general for the same reason? Because very few places have zero carbon electricity.

                                                                                                                        • August27th@lemmy.ca
                                                                                                                          18 days

                                                                                                                          very few places have zero carbon electricity

                                                                                                                          So you admit it does indeed use CO2.

                                                                                                                            • MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                                                              18 days

                                                                                                                              i mean if we abstract it enough we can say my bicycle runs on gummi worms.

                                                                                                                                • August27th@lemmy.ca
                                                                                                                                  18 days

                                                                                                                                  Now you’re getting it.

                                                                                                                        • NachBarcelona@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                                                                          18 days

                                                                                                                          Well yes, you get the golden cup of shit for the dumbest take on the subject, like, ever.

                                                                                                                          ”Hitler committed genocide, so what’s eo bad about my little murder?“ - OP (allegedly)

                                                                                                                            • jjj@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                                                                                                              18 days

                                                                                                                              I believe they’re making a point about media’s efforts to blame consumers for global warming, while the 20 most emissive corporations singlehandedly released 40% of global greenhouse gas emissions in 2024.

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