- modus@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
I didn’t think it was reflective tape at first. I think I thought it was just a little pixelated.
- thenextguy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish20 days
Poorly installed aftermarket headlights. Being LED has little to do with it.
- NewNewAccount@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
Not just aftermarket. Teslas are notorious for having overly bright, misaimed headlights.
- binarytobis@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
People keep telling me that acktually Tesla headlights have hi-tech sensors that avoid blinding people. And I’m like “I’m people, and they blind me all the time!”
- 20 days
You’re not a person by Elon’s standards. It uses AI facial recognition to see if you’re a billionaire and if you’re not, it re-aims to blind you more.
- Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish20 days
Teslas notoriously have almost no quality control, so that makes sense.
- 20 days
There is no US regulation on headlight brightness, so it’s a little of that and also new cars maxing out what they can put on the car. Add to that the height of trucks and SUVs.
LED lights are far brighter though, and the worst color wavelength for vision.
- WhoIzDisIz@lemmy.todayEnglish20 days
Yeah, I think a good amount of the issue with them could be resolved simply by using warmer color LEDs - it seems so obvious that I don’t get why they don’t.
- Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish20 days
Need regulations, but it’s hilarious to think that the Trump Admin will force the NHTSA to do this.
- ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.comEnglish20 days
That actually used to be the case, but then people got used to it, and now people think regular headlights are too dim because they don’t illuminate way up into the sky like a second sun, and so new cars are coming out with brighter headlights (with higher angles, presumably). But there’s no technical reason LEDs have to have their terrible reputation in headlights, so the spirit of your post is correct.
- saltesc@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
The other is idiots lifting their 4×4s and not readjusting the angles. They probably wonder why they don’t see as well now too.
- alpine_jim@piefed.socialEnglish20 days

This is a real Mercedes-Benz as they ran in magazines, showing you can check how far along a cow’s pregnancy is with their stock headlights.
Boozilla@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
20 daysI fucking hate those things. I saw somewhere that it’s almost always an alignment issue, but I feel like with today’s technology it should be self-correcting if it’s going to otherwise blind people. We have phones that can photograph an ant’s asshole at 300 meters. they could fix this shit if they cared. They’ll only care if they lose billions in a class action lawsuit.
- 20 days
The worst part is when the other headlights are so bright you have to make yours brighter to compensate. I have astigmatism and am literally blinded by these headlights while driving at night. I had to upgrade my own headlights to LED (still dimmer than these others) just so that I could still make out the road when they drive by. Because the way my eyes work the more my eyes adjust for darkness the more blinding a light is.
- NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.netEnglish19 days
Adding a yellow tint to your glasses massively helps with cutting the glare out, makes computer screens less headachey as well.
- 19 days
Sadly I have a big ass head and everytime I try to wear glasses it makes me get a migraine.
- NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.netEnglish19 days
Tried having a look at prescription safety glasses?
They’re usually built for people that are built bigger, and are mostly cheaper than buying off the shelf.
- DrBanjo@reddthat.comEnglish20 days
My cars are older with not LEDs and I just drive with my brights on all the time. Still dimmer than everyone else’s lights and helps my eyes
grrgyle@slrpnk.netEnglish
19 daysI was driving my friend’s car at night yesterday, first time in years, and it seemed like over half the people just don’t flick off their brights when approaching these days?? I understand it’s kind of impossible to see the road without them now, but I was still shocked at how g much shittier a drive in the dark was than I remembered. It’s intolerable!
- ButtermilkBiscuit@feddit.nlEnglish19 days
It’s super easy to adjust in most cars that don’t do it automatically. There is usually a slot near the lights and you use a philips or flat screw driver and turn the adjustment nut either up or down depending on need. Instructions are in the manual or you can look it up online for every vehicle I’ve owned.
There is an exact method but generally line the car up facing and super close to a wall, turn the lights on, the center of the beam should be about 2-3 inches below the height of your headlights. If you have space the beam should hit the ground 7.5m or about 25 ft from where your car is parked.
A common issue in my hick town is people lifting vehicles and never adjusting the light angle. Any time you put bigger tires on a car or lift the body you should adjust the lights.
Edit: I just wanted to add, if you get brights flashed at you a lot it’s time to adjust your lights.
grrgyle@slrpnk.netEnglish
19 daysSo this is why I feel like I’m being attacked whenever I go up a slight incline with incoming traffic?
- 19 days
States are reducing inspections so I see this getting worse.
- pigup@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
The technology for adaptive headlights absolutely has existed… in super high-end cars because that’s a complex optical control and microelectronics system. it requires advanced engineering, complex optical assemblies, and complicated control systems. Your Honda will never have that because most of us simply don’t want to pay. Cars are complicated enough. Do want more things that can break? Do you want your replacement headlights to cost $5,000? LED technology is so far superior to any other light source for headlights. That there are idiots all over the place with poorly maintained cars is not the LEDs fault.


- RustyEarthfire@lemmy.worldEnglish19 days
Luckily nobody outside of a car has eyes or this would be pretty terrible.
- Tja@programming.devEnglish19 days
If they are wearing reflecting clothing (which they should if they are on a road after dark) , they will be detected.
If they are not, they have much bigger problems to worry about than leds.
- PieMePlenty@lemmy.worldEnglish19 days
in super high-end cars
I’m looking at the specs of a VW Polo here and it has matrix led headlights. Not the base model, but one above it, at 23k eur. I know Polo’s aren’t available in the states, but if a small entry level hatchback suited for first car owners can have them, I struggle to find the reason why others can’t have them too. Unless its proprietary technology?
- prettybunnys@piefed.socialEnglish19 days
They were saying lots of words to make their point seem a lot more salient than your actual lived experience proves
You’re right.
- ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish20 days
It’s mostly limited to expensive cars because until recently the regulations around them were super complicated. Things are finally simplified a bit and North America has finally started allowing them as well.
- NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.netEnglish19 days
Add a border of that 3M high reflective silver tape and they’ll notice real quick
- ramenshaman@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
Don’t blame LEDs, it’s because of the alignment of the headlights. Any type of headlight can be misaligned.
- kunaltyagi@programming.devEnglish19 days
Also the increasing height of lights, even low beams travel fucking long
- LordKitsuna@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
To be fair, depending on the housing, alignment is nearly impossible. Many housings are simply not designed to have a sharp cut off. As far as I’m concerned, LEDs should only be allowed in projector housings with projector lenses. Those are the ones that have a damn near razor blade level of light cutoff, so when you aim them to just below the windshield level of most vehicles, it’s not going to blind them at all.
That is what I have done with my car, I have LEDs brighter than the sun, but I have them in projector housings with projector lenses, and I have them aimed to be below the windshield level of a typical sedan, not a stupid SUV or truck. So nobody ever flashes me or gets annoyed and I have tested by having a friend Drive towards me on a road in the car while I am in a different car
It has the added benefit of my high beams are still mostly road level rather than up in the trees like many peoples so for like a mile in front of me it is just daytime which is very helpful out where I live in the middle of absolute nowhere rural where streetlights are just a myth and the deer are plentiful.
- 20 days
I really appreciate your attention to properly aligning your lights… but doesn’t that only help with very level roadways? Where I drive with lots of gentle hills, a car with a razor thin cut-off looks like its constantly flashing its high-beams at me. I feel like a headlight with a gradual transition would be less blinding for other drivers.
- LordKitsuna@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
Mild unlevelness is taken into account with my aiming, obviously I can’t do anything about us going opposing directions on a steep incline, but that’s true of any headlight type.
- BillCheddar@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
…which is exactly why you shouldn’t be allowed to have the intense, blinding lights on your vehicle.
“It’s unavoidable but fuck y’all, i like the bright lights” is a wild stance to take.
- LordKitsuna@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
As I mentioned, that’s true regardless of light type. I am just as blinded by the people with standard lights on an incline as they are by my LEDs. That’s just part of driving on an incline at night. People that have driven at night more than once in their life just learn to hold up one of their hands on a steep incline.
It’s less I like the bright lights and more the whole there is no other source of light anywhere near me. I’m on a rural highway and I would like to be able to see the deer before I’m on top of them.
- ferret@sh.itjust.worksEnglish20 days
Incandescant headlights are not dim, the tyranny of the inverse square law is unavoidable. If you stare into them head on, say, as a product of a hill, you will be unsighted regardless.
And this is ignoring the fact that just because LEDs can be brighter doesn’t mean they have to be. Trying to attribute this issue to technology instead of insufficent regulation is harmful.
- 19 days
They should be behind diffusers to break up the laser like focus of them.
- 19 days
LEDs are so point source and intense that any misalignment, which is very common, is going to be an issue. Plus they blind you much more when a car’s nose is elevated relative to you. Put HID or LED lights on trucks and they are always in your face, and it feels like 50% of the vehicles are massive trucks.
- Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
Prevailing thought on social media seems to prefer demonizing technology over discussing how to use it better.
- farmgineer@nord.pubEnglish20 days
I’m in Japan and I get blinded by lights by a lot of cars these days. It shouldn’t be aiming as we have bi-yearly inspections that check that (both for regular and highbeams). It is possible, though, that people change the lights for inspection and swap them out after (though this is not legal).
- mrgoosmoos@lemmy.caEnglish19 days
I am enthused by the anti-led headlight comments in this thread
it’s nice to see people recognizing the danger for what it is and not just making false claims about how it’s only illegal headlights that are dangerous and stock LEDs are fine
I’m proud of all you people shitting on LED headlights. keep up the good work
edit: to the guy who respectably tried to find alternatives for their blinding headlights and couldn’t and wrote their MP about it - good work. but that’s not enough. it’s your vehicle, and you as the owner and operator are responsible for its safety. you chose that vehicle. you were aware of the headlights. you made that trade off of blinding headlights for the rest of the package. that was YOUR decision. don’t fuck my life up as a result and say “whoopsie, nothing I can do, not my fault”. that’s disgusting. have some responsibility for your actions. yes the manufacturers fucked you. don’t use that as an excuse to fuck the rest of us.
FiredFloridaCop@lemmy.worldEnglish
20 daysBlinder-lovers tend to lean conservative (comes with the “Doesn’t hurt me = Not a problem”), and Lemmy is definitely not very.
- 19 days
There is a lot of “my freedom!” bullshit when it comes to cars.
- mrgoosmoos@lemmy.caEnglish19 days
there are still enough people who aren’t very conservative and still just shurg and say “nothing I can do about it”, instead of y’know owning up to their shit
- 19 days
Why do people feel the need to have headlights so bright they can see to the horizon?
- 19 days
Good thing I hold up my hand at night to stop from being blinded ensuring I can’t see your oncoming superbright truck.
- modus@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
You know, I’ve thought about getting one of those obnoxiously bright, completely unfocused LED lights bars.
And mounting it on the back.
- 20 days
You will be the one pulled over and ticketed, even if you aren’t actually using it.
- Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
Do it. I did and it’s fucking hilarious getting revenge on these people. They get so mad lol
Just don’t make the mistake I did and do it to a cop (it was at night so I couldn’t see what kind of car it was; all I saw was tailgating headlights). Thankfully he had a sense of humor about it.
Reygle@lemmy.worldEnglish
19 daysMy newish car has LED headlights, but it’s a CAR, and is low to the ground. I hope it doesn’t blind oncoming cars like these fucking trucks that are 3,000 feet tall.
Routhinator@startrek.websiteEnglish
20 daysYeah, as an owner of a vehicle with these fucking things. I hate them but there’s literally nothing we can do. All vehicles sold have them now, and the manufacturers have no options for softer lights. I’ve tried for months.
Do what I did and write your MP. This needs to be legislated.
- Agent641@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
My car has them too, from the factory. Maybe there are tints that can be applied to the light thing. Maybe that’s illegal tho 🤷
- 20 days
Yes you can! You can get them adjusted at a mechanic, or get the internal reflector swapped out
- thallamabond@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
One problem is the manufacturers have made headlights into assemblies that cannot be repaired or really disassembled, forcing you to replace the entire thing if anything goes wrong. Also they can be expensive.
https://daxstreet.com/cars/419253/10-cars-where-a-headlight-assembly-costs-2000-dollars/
Also sometimes the new headlight needs to be programmed by the dealership to work correctly
- Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
Then get aftermarket headlights! Why are you guys acting like OEM housing is the only way?
- thallamabond@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
You do realize their goal is less bright lights, with these LED assemblies there is often little to no aftermarket, and when there is it is brighter. Example: 2023-2026 Acura integra
- Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
Well you gotta give it a few years for an aftermarket to develop. I’m happy that there are people on Lemmy privileged enough to afford a brand new car, but most of us are driving 12-14 year old vehicles, in which there’s almost always an aftermarket available in that age range unless you’re driving something obscure (in which case you’d have a difficult time finding even OEM parts for!).
- Gonzako@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
Wtf, on my 2005 car changing the lights costs 30 bucks. They are purposefully low price because you don’t want people around going without lights
- thallamabond@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
Yep, driving around without lights is dangerous, it could get you pulled over. The people designing these setups know this and want to force you back to the dealership.
- 20 days
I have them as well and a lot of others around me and they’re awesome!
As long as they’re regulated properly. I’m in Germany and we love regulating stuff!
Hubi@feddit.orgEnglish
20 daysThis is unfortunately just not true. I’m also from Germany and I drive a lot at night, where I get absolutely blinded by random headlights every couple of minutes. My car sits very close to the ground and the average SUV headlights are way above my trunk and hood, shining directly into my cabin. It’s gotten so bad in recent years. One day I’ll probably crash into a tree or something because yet another idiot trusts their Matrix LED high beams to recognize my car in time.
- 20 days
Never had that issue with my normal cars (like Golf class). What kind of Tarnmobil are you driving?
Hubi@feddit.orgEnglish
20 daysIt’s a lowered 1989 Mercedes E-Class. Sitting in the car my level of sight is at about 110 cm.
- 20 days
Yeah well. That might be the price of lowering. Cool ride though.
Oh and fuck SUVs 😑
- hardcoreufo@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
The factory ones are bright but not blinding. Its always the aftermarket’s that aren’t set up properly or regulated that are blinding.
- mrgoosmoos@lemmy.caEnglish20 days
pay to get them replaced with something that’s not dangerous
it’s your vehicle. you are responsible for it too.
- mrgoosmoos@lemmy.caEnglish19 days
go custom or eat the loss. at least tint the housings and lenses.
this is your problem because it’s your vehicle, don’t make it everybody else’s
Routhinator@startrek.websiteEnglish
19 daysIf I illegally modified my vehicle in a way that made it worse, it would be.
This is a factory vehicle from the dealership with no alternative light options. I’m not responsible for anything with regard to the lights on it unless I’m running around with my brights on, which I don’t use.
Not sure how you think the law works, but that’s not it.
- mrgoosmoos@lemmy.caEnglish19 days
your lack of ownership for your own property disgusts me
you’re a terrible person
Routhinator@startrek.websiteEnglish
19 daysYou have a warped view here, I have to say.
I’ve looked all over for aftermarket options, and asked the dealership repeatedly for options for 4 years… And I have no responsibility because I won’t go spending inordinate amounts of money to try and engineer a potentially worse solution…
Right… Great viewpoint you have there.
- BauerBender@lemmy.worldEnglish20 days
Is this duck tape? Regardless of the message, that’s dedication.
- RustySharp@programming.devEnglish20 days
It’s a brand now. But the name predates duct tape by 50-odd years. It came from the “cotton duck cloth” used in the design.


















