- 26 days
Wow! It’s almost as though random household appliances shouldn’t be connected to the internet
- frunch@lemmy.worldEnglish26 days
But how else am i going to operate them? In-person?
I personally have found it most convenient to put my detergent and clothes in the machine, then drive out to a spot where i can get some free wi-fi. Perhaps the Starbucks in the next town over. So, 15-min drive to Starbucks (and grab a PSL since 'tis the season) and then log onto their free wi-fi, then log into my account on Whirlpool’s app on my phone. Click on My Washer, select a cycle, water temperature, rinse options, etc. and press Start Cycle. By the time i get back home, the washer is almost done. I wait around an extra 10 mins or so for the cycle to finish once I’m back home, move the washed clothes into the dryer, and I’m back on the road! I’ve opted to start using the public library as my secondary wi-fi spot (when they’re open, at least), so another 15-min drive and I’m back on the app ready to commence a drying cycle! A few choice button pushes (the app really is streamlined) and my dryer is tumbling and heating like it’s nobody’s business.
- Zephorah@discuss.onlineEnglish26 days
A connected coffee pot has a lure to it. You preload it. Sleep. Wake up. As you’re browsing Lemmy in bed, you tap your phone to start the morning coffee. The aroma reaches you in bed, letting you know hot fresh coffee is waiting for you, making it easier to get out of bed.
It’s not enough of a temptation for me to go buy a connected drip coffee pot, but I’m betting that’s why people do it.
- crashex@crazypeople.onlineEnglish26 days
You could get them 40 years ago with a simple clock. No internet connection, just set up for coffee at 7
- otacon239@lemmy.worldEnglish26 days
If you have an analog switch to turn it on, you can even use a wall timer to have it automatically start. It’s further off-track from the intention, but if you’re hellbent on yelling at something, you could connect it to a smart outlet.
- Prox@lemmy.worldEnglish26 days
Why even add that complication of a secondary device? Programmable coffee makers are like $30 and they last forever. I’ve been using my Walmart cheapo machine for 20+ years. This is a totally solved problem.
- unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.mlEnglish24 days
The only innovative thing most companies’ R&D budgets support is making stuff spy on you using either WiFi or GPS. And old solutions are a no-go, of course. They’re people with standards, you see.
- 25 days
You know coffee pots have had automatic brew timers fro decades, right?
- 25 days
People do it because they just take whatever corporations shove up their ass. That’s the reason.
26 daysShelly smart outlet + homeassistant + dumb coffee maker = genius coffee maker.
- Zephorah@discuss.onlineEnglish25 days
I doubt your grandpa is going to do that. No, he’s probably going to buy the “smart” drip pot and be proud of his purchase.
- 25 days
My grandpa just uses a drip pot with no internet like he has for the last 70 years.
- 26 days
bonus points for z-wave/zigbee only devices without wlan/bluetooth connectivityy
- ExcessShiv@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish26 days
Outlet timer + dumb coffee maker = genius coffee maker…but cheaper, and simpler and doesn’t randomly break because an update fucked something up in HA (again) so your automation isn’t running today.
Also yes. My response was more about showing you can have a modern smarthome that does not talk to the internet. You can of course automate without.
- davad@lemmy.worldEnglish26 days
I’ve had good luck with locally connected devices (zwave and zigbee usually). I have a bunch of light switches, temperature sensors, etc. But I bet local connected stuff is hard to find for appliances.
mine did, too, and downloaded a bunch of torrent movies
probably training its llm
- saltesc@lemmy.worldEnglish26 days
Uh, yeah! Mine too. All the pirate stuff has been my damned appliances. I delete the files immediately, of course. I wouldn’t even steal a car, let alone a movie.
- justsomeguy@lemmy.worldEnglish26 days
My coffee maker broke out of containment and played a bunch of video games during work hours at my office. Crazy what these AIs are doing.
My Smart AI Powered Candle™ 5G ultra min-max* Blue and Yellow™ Hue Smart Ultra Adapter Plus + Vegan and Eco Friendly Air Conditioning Low Callory Ambient ASMR Battery Powered Candle with RGB and ADHD with ABCD Military Grade Smart Light smart candle went rouge and went out and broke 4 Flock cameras just yesterday. It was the model with 16gb DDR5 RAM and 2TB of internal SSD storage, if that helps to identify the issue. We really might be reaching AGI soon… I’m scared for our future.
(sidenote how does one spell callory?) calory, callary, callorie, kckallaru?
- REDACTED@infosec.pubEnglish26 days
I was thinking about stealing a navy ship, but pirating a movie is where I draw the line
What furries and smart coffee machines have in common; a love for beans. 🐾
- 26 days
To spy on everyone in your household and try to sell you more garbage coffee pods.
So you can control it remotely, obviously. It’s not like it’s a new thing :P
This reminds me the tue smart tea kettle that required an always online connection to function, and became completely useless when the servers shut down.
Yes, it was a kettle. Yes, like the one you use for boiling water.
It had settings for certain types of tea that it didn’t have on-device. And it didn’t have a basic “just boil the water” function.
Oh gods, the Juicero. Yeah, it’s of the same ilk. The “smart” trend of adding computers and network connections to things that literally never needed them.
Like the smart water bottle that reminded you about being thirsty and needing to drink.
- 24 days
IIRC the excuse for Juicero having internet access was to read QR codes on the fruit pouches that included the expiration date, and it would refuse to squeeze expired fruit. Because at it’s heart, it was a screw press. A severely over-engineered screw press. Like Jurassic Park, they spared no expense.
Wasn’t the Juicero also simply not strong enough to press actual fruit, so the bags were just… Bags of fruit juice? I remember seeing people buy one and just poking a hole for a straw like those lunch juice pockets.
- 24 days
No they were full of fruit. Thing is nothing stopped you from squeezing the bag with your hands.
- frongt@lemmy.zipEnglish26 days
Nomad said that most of the suspicious traffic didn’t escape the network.
Okay so it was just a bug that caused repeat/looping LAN traffic. This is sensationalized.
- Nosavingthrow@lemmy.worldEnglish24 days
Bugs like this are a legitimate concern in the age of internet connected coffee pots.
I’m not opposed to the concept of smart appliances. Getting a phone notification when my load of laundry is done. Remotely starting the oven preheat. Having the humidifier interact with the thermostat automatically. Blinds that open on a schedule to gently wake you with natural light.
For the record, I don’t have any of these things, but I like the ideas of them. It’s the kind of stuff I was wide eyed and hopeful about as a sci fi loving kid.
The problem with ask these things is not the connectivity ideas, imho; it’s pretty much capitalism. These things can’t exist in a way that doesn’t also spy on you, build a profile that knows you better than yourself, and sells every last morsel of information to not just the highest bidder, but every bidder.
And to be clear, I don’t mean can’t on a technical level.
- GreyEyedGhost@piefed.caEnglish26 days
Commercial products can’t do this from a business case level. There are ways you can achieve this on a technical level, but it is very much DIY at this point. I hope to slowly implement this over the next while until I have a system that works for me, uses no cloud or corporate servers, and is possibly accessible from outside my home (that’s a security challenge and I may not be up to it).
- 26 days
Tired of seeing this sensationalist X post reposted.
Keurig machines are everywhere. Has anyone verified this? Don’t give x users this much attention. What kind of IT expert posts on X? Smart enough to know better, but supporting fascism nonetheless - worst of the worst.
- HeyJoe@lemmy.worldEnglish26 days
“Nomad said that most of the suspicious traffic didn’t escape the network. He has a hypothesis that the unit was simply affected by a bug. Nomad said he has over 10 years of experience in IT and works as a Technical Field and Community Specialist at the 3D printer manufacturer Prusa.”
Absolutely what I thought. I love how everyone assumed it was hacked… In the 20 years I have been at my job we have had a particular model of desk phone that it happened to twice and when it did it creates a network storm and tanks your entire network (at the time this company did not have proper vlans in place which would have mitigated the issue). You trace it to the device and reboot it and everything is fine again. The phones were still replaced just in case, but that was always one of the wilder ones here. My guess is this was something similar and since it’s his older parents they probably didnt even notice the network being bogged down.
“After rebooting the device and reconnecting it to a segregated virtual LAN (VLAN), the issue did not reappear.”
Why even bother? Is it actually required to have an internet connection? If so get rid of it, thats so dumb and intrusive… and if not just turn off wifi on it, why even leave it on at all.
- scytale@piefed.zipEnglish26 days
I attended a talk by someone who hacked his ceiling fan. He discovered that the remote’s circuit board was so poorly done that every time you press a button, it sends out the signal 20 times. He was wondering why the batteries kept dying quickly on the remote, and that was why.
- gezginorman@lemmy.mlEnglish24 days
Coffee machine uses 1,000GB of traffic in 10 days, leaves IT Pro shocked
yet there’s nothing shocking about a coffee machine that needs to connect to the internet
Pod coffee machines are a businesses dream. Lock in the customers. And then don’t care about the plastic and foil waste per cup you create in order to do this. No surprise if they do other bad things. Visiting friends and they show you their pod machine? Ask them what happens with the used pod? Do them a favour and tell them there is a better way. Such as coffee machines that you put beans in. No not Heinz baked beans you moron! Coffee beans that produce only bio degradable waste. And freshly ground tastes great. No chemicals added.
Wasting your internet is trivial compared to the landfill waste created.
- ForeverComical@lemmy.caEnglish25 days
I can see use cases that aren’t just laziness but yeah it’s mostly a bad idea
- blargh513@sh.itjust.worksEnglish25 days
I mean, they make poor-tasting coffee. That seems like it’s the worst thing of all.
When you roast and then grind coffee, it releases carbon dioxide. If you seal it up after processing, it will usually inflate a bag; that’s why most coffee bags at the grocery store have that little one-way check valve in the bag itself.
The only way to keep coffee from offgassing is to let it go stale first. That’s what they do to most coffee that used to come in metal cans. They have to do the same thing to the pods. At best, your coffee is pre-staled and only gets worse from there.
Then you have all the stupid non-recyclable waste. A plastic pod that gets boiling water run through it, I’m sure that it’s leaching a fun mix of chemicals into your coffee. There is also a paper filter in there and a foil top. No way to recycle these things unless you separate all three parts and the plastic body weren’t made of unrecyclable frankenplastic (aka #7).
Fuck those pods and any twat who is too lazy to make a damn cup of coffee without one. Get a cheap ceramic pourover and a box of #2 filters. Grind coffee, boil water. add grounds to filter, pour hot water. The only waste is a soft paper filter and some grounds, both of which can be easily composted if you like.
I’m lazy too. But my push-button espresso machine takes coffee beans instead of landfill. And has no paper filter. Only coffee grounds to go in the bio degradable waste.
Sure, a case for pods, is a seldom used machine in an unmanned hotel room. But that is better solved with sachets of instant coffee and a kettle. In someone’s home, show visitors what a polluting jerk you are.
- SplitTheUSInFour@lemmy.worldEnglish25 days
IT pro shocked! Jfc what kind of society did we become? This is so embarrassing to read. Just the thought of humans ending up here. Something about an internet coffee machine malfunction.
It’s all so ignorant and moronic.
- cloudshouter@lemmy.zipEnglish24 days
Anyone else remember the massive bot net that killed the internet in Europe and half the US doing a DDOS attack over a Minecraft server? Apparently it was mostly made of smart refrigerators, thermostats, and other appliances.
- unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.mlEnglish24 days
In other news
Gasoline-laced wooden beam catches fire, leaves OSHA Pro shocked
- expatriado@lemmy.worldEnglish26 days
if the idea is to command the machine to brew while you’re stil in bed, bluetooth is enough connectivity, unless you live in a big house, but what i know, i use aeropress
- Toga77@lemmy.worldEnglish25 days
Use a damn French press.
It’s not hard.
These stupid machines suck, make shit coffee, and surveil you.
People are so lazy
