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Why is it so hard to stop a behavior even when you know it’s hurting you? Whether it’s food addiction, sugar cravings, binge eating, scrolling, shopping, drinking, or another compulsive habit, knowing what you should do is often very different from actually being able to change. In this episode, I unpack why certain habits become so difficult to give up, why stress can pull us back into old behaviors, and why lasting behavior change may require looking beyond willpower, discipline, or simply removing the addictive behavior.

I also share what I learned through my own recovery from an eating disorder, why fear, certainty, identity, and self-sabotage can keep us stuck, and how our underlying needs may influence the behaviors we repeatedly turn to for relief, comfort, control, or escape. If you’ve ever asked, “Why do I keep doing this when I know better?”, this conversation explores what may actually be happening underneath addiction and what has to change for the pattern itself to finally lose its grip.

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Why changing food behavior is not simply about willpower (00:00–02:20)

  • Sugar stimulates the body, but its effects do not fully explain why some people stop eating it while others repeatedly return. Knowing which foods to eat and knowing the benefits of carnivore do not ensure behavioral change.
  • Repeated harmful behaviors are often driven by unmet needs, not weakness, insufficient discipline, or an inherent personal defect. Identifying these needs makes sustained changes possible.
  • An adaptation of Maslow’s hierarchy organizes six fundamental human needs that drive behavior, habits, and addictions. [1][2]

The six human needs (02:20–04:20)

  • Certainty: Safety, control, stability, and predictability create security and knowledge of what to expect.
  • Uncertainty or variety: Novelty, stimulation, adventure, and change fulfill a need that a strict beef, salt, and water diet may leave unmet, especially for people with a strong desire for variety.
  • Significance: Feeling important, valued, special, needed, and meaningful to other people.
  • Love and connection: Belonging, affection, emotional closeness, and meaningful relationships.
  • Growth: Learning, healing, progressing, and developing beyond one’s current capabilities.
  • Contribution: Serving others, giving, and finding purpose beyond oneself and one’s immediate family.
  • The first four needs vary in relative importance between people; growth and contribution are higher fulfillment needs. All six influence behavior, and healthier actions can satisfy them.

Why habits and addictions become persistent (04:20–07:20)

  • A behavior fulfilling at least three human needs becomes harder to give up, with greater persistence as more needs are fulfilled. Addiction develops when the habit continues despite being harmful. [2]
  • A stable relationship fulfills certainty through reliability, significance through feeling valued, and love through emotional connection. These fulfilled needs help sustain the relationship.
  • Unhealthy relationships can also fulfill several needs: unpredictable communication supplies uncertainty and stimulation, while occasional affection supplies significance and connection, sustaining attachment despite harm.
  • Shame and self-criticism do not adequately explain persistent habits. They continue because they fulfill important needs despite their damaging consequences.

Why food addiction and binge eating persist (07:20–12:40)

  • In Judy Cho’s clinical practice, people who successfully followed carnivore often returned to carbohydrates and processed foods under stress. Sugar has stimulating effects, while eating also fulfills emotional needs.
  • Certainty: Familiar foods provide predictable comfort, emotional responses, and temporary relief, making them reliable tools for coping or escape.
  • Uncertainty: Food variety, unfamiliar flavors, availability, and different eating experiences can supply excitement and novelty, depending on individual needs.
  • Love and connection: Foods associated with childhood, parents, grandparents, school, and happier memories provide nostalgia and an indirect sense of belonging during loneliness or disconnection.
  • Escape, reward, and relief: Binges can numb painful emotions after difficult days, reward two weeks of disciplined eating, or provide pleasurable, dopamine-associated relief during exhaustion.
  • Control: Decisions about which foods to eat and when provide a sense of control when other parts of life feel uncontrollable. Control is an important component of many eating disorders.
  • Immediate comfort, relief, pleasure, numbing, or control can be followed by shame, physical discomfort, carbohydrate-related symptoms, diminished self-trust, fear, and renewed cravings. The immediate reward can sustain behavior despite later harm.

Meet the need through a healthier behavior (12:40–17:10)

  • During COVID, previously successful carnivore dieters returned to processed foods amid widespread uncertainty, stress, and fight-or-flight responses; familiar food temporarily fulfilled their need for certainty.
  • One pattern is stress, loneliness, or overwhelm followed by food, brief relief, and longer-term suffering. A healthier pattern involves identifying the underlying need and fulfilling it through regulation, support, nourishment, or other activities.
  • Questions about a behavior’s purpose, the feelings it avoids, and the need it fulfills identify where change is necessary more effectively than asking why self-control fails.
  • Shame reinforces negative cycles. Repeated beliefs about weakness, incapacity, or inevitable failure direct the limbic system toward experiences that confirm those beliefs. Identifying unmet needs supports change without reinforcing a negative identity.
  • Certainty can come from meal structure, routine, planning, and preparation. Uncertainty can come from varied movement, creativity, novelty, and anticipation of trips and new experiences.
  • Connection can come from shared meals and supportive relationships. Significance can come from small commitments, such as ten consecutive days of meat-based breakfasts tracked on a calendar.
  • Occasional setbacks need not produce shame. Small successes build self-respect, follow-through, and additional ways to fulfill underlying needs.

The needs jar: a practical tool for cravings (17:10–21:25)

  • A needs jar contains four groups of color-coded slips for certainty, uncertainty, significance, and love and connection. Each slip contains a specific activity identified during a calm period as capable of fulfilling that need.
  • During a strong craving or binge urge, emotional activation can impair logical decision-making. Drawing slips from the jar provides activities through which unmet needs can be fulfilled.
  • When an urge persists and food is eaten, recording emotions, bodily sensations, anticipation, and thoughts before, during, and after eating makes the experience easier to examine.
  • Dopamine and anticipation can make the time before a binge especially exciting. Attention to seeking food, traveling to obtain it, opening its packaging, its texture, the first bite, and accompanying emotions helps expose the sequence.
  • Food choice can follow workplace stress, difficulty setting boundaries, or feeling unimportant to a boss. Eating can temporarily fulfill the resulting unmet need for significance or comfort.
  • Identifying these connections repeatedly separates behavioral patterns from personal inadequacy and creates opportunities to fulfill needs through other actions.
  • Boredom, frustration, and repetitive routines are yellow flags. Early recognition creates opportunities to fulfill unmet needs before the red flag of bingeing or returning to processed food.

The mind-body connection and chronic illness (21:25–25:55)

  • Infections, toxins, mold, endotoxins, food sensitivities, inflammation, pain, and poor sleep activate immune and stress responses. Mast cells contribute to immune signaling, while the hypothalamus, autonomic nervous system, cortisol, adrenaline, blood pressure, and muscle tension participate in stress responses.
  • Stress, fear, anxiety, trauma, negative beliefs, and interpretations of experience also activate the limbic system and influence hypothalamic, autonomic, and immune signaling.
  • Eliminating dietary or environmental triggers may be insufficient for healing when psychological triggers continue activating stress pathways. Feedback loops can continue even after physical exposures stop.
  • Nervous system regulation and limbic retraining modify habitual responses to people, environments, and memories. These learned changes require practice comparable to acquiring a language or musical skill.
  • Physical recovery, nutrition, emotional regulation, and changes in processing experiences are interconnected elements of lasting recovery.

Certainty, self-sabotage, and fear of success (25:55–30:35)

  • During divorce, bereavement, accidents, or major stress, familiar habits become automatic. Fear and anger can supply certainty because their emotional patterns are familiar.
  • During eating disorder recovery, Judy Cho expected eventual relapse even during periods of success and sometimes almost brought that relapse about herself to fulfill familiar expectations.
  • Self-sabotage can preserve familiar limitations and avoid testing personal potential. Removing obstacles such as illness, addiction, and excess weight can expose uncertainty about ambitions and abilities.
  • Becoming an artist, author, successful speaker, or pursuing other aspirations involves the risk of failure. Familiar suffering can feel safer than discovering one’s actual capabilities.
  • Fear of failure and success can preserve the status quo. Healthier sources of certainty are necessary to stop familiar behaviors from undermining progress.

Decision, commitment, resolve, and belief (30:35–35:00)

  • Tony Robbins’ model of lasting change involves deciding, committing, and resolving. Decisions must produce concrete action, commitment, and determination to complete the change. [3]
  • With a needs jar, the decision is to fulfill needs differently, the commitment is to acquire supplies and create the jar, and resolve includes a deadline for finishing it.
  • Dietary commitment can involve removing all carbohydrate-containing foods from the house. Burning the boats removes easy routes back and reinforces an identity built around not eating those foods.
  • People generally already know that frequent fast food, pizza, French fries, and candy consumption is harmful. Lack of nutritional information is not the fundamental barrier.
  • Immediate rewards are attractive despite future harm. Strengthening belief that change will work, committing fully to carnivore or a chosen healing approach, and fulfilling underlying needs reduces reliance on old habits.

Growth, contribution, and hedonic adaptation (35:00–38:30)

  • Certainty, uncertainty, significance, and connection are fundamental survival needs. Growth and contribution become the basis for deeper fulfillment after the first four needs are sufficiently met.
  • Growth involves ongoing learning, development, and experience. Contribution involves serving others and pursuing purposes beyond personal health and family.
  • Hedonic adaptation is the fading of the happiness initially produced by achieving a goal. Reaching an annual income of $50,000 may bring excitement that declines after several paychecks. [4]
  • Diminishing satisfaction reflects the ongoing need for growth. Success with carnivore and recovery from illness or binge eating create time and energy for additional ambitions.
  • New experiences, goals, challenges, and contributions continue beyond a single milestone, because the drive to progress continues throughout life.

Self-talk, mental imagery, and physiological responses (38:30–41:40)

  • The first three adjectives or phrases used for self-definition may include being a failure, never succeeding, always starting over, or being stuck.
  • Repeated self-definitions influence what the limbic system notices and predicts and how the body prepares to respond. Negative self-definitions reinforce perceptions that conform to the same negative identity.
  • In an orchestra experiment also mentioned in Judy Cho’s book Inflammation Fix, observing an orchestra and imagining it playing activated the same brain regions. [5]
  • Thoughts and perceptions influence physiology. An imagined threat can produce bodily responses comparable to a real threat, and thoughts about conflict with colleagues or family members can cause muscle tension and stress without an external event occurring.
  • Mental stress sustained over hours, weeks, months, or years can perpetuate physiological stress and contribute to chronic illness. Repeated words and thoughts influence nervous system responses.
  • Recording negative self-definitions over several days helps identify repeated messages and their effects on emotional and physiological responses.

Practice, recovery, and lasting behavior change (41:40–46:05)

  • Examining each recurring habit or addiction reveals which human needs it fulfills. Fulfilling three or more needs makes persistence easier to explain.
  • A needs jar provides healthier activities to try whenever an urge arises. Repeated practice across several activities can continue until the craving passes, although cravings do not always resolve immediately.
  • After a setback, acknowledging what happened and continuing without shame prevents reinforcement of a negative self-identity. Each successful response helps develop new habitual patterns.
  • Judy Cho expected a lifelong eating disorder and constant reliance on willpower, but after seven or eight years of nutrition, nervous system regulation, limbic retraining, purpose, and service, stress no longer automatically triggers thoughts of food.
  • Lasting change can require identifying deeper sources of unmet needs, including relationships, weak boundaries, or inadequate connection. These circumstances may require changes beyond dietary discipline.
  • The central exercises are creating a needs jar and examining self-defining words. Recognizing early yellow flags and fulfilling needs in healthier ways reduces dependence on shame or willpower for controlling recurring food habits.

References

  1. [01:53] A theory of human motivation — https://doi.org/10.1037/h0054346
  2. [01:56] Why do we do what we do? — https://www.tonyrobbins.com/podcasts/why-we-do-what-we-do
  3. [30:35] Making financial dreams a reality — https://www.tonyrobbins.com/blog/how-money-makes-dreams-reality
  4. [36:03] Hedonic Adaptation — https://doi.org/10.1002/9781119547143.ch40
  5. [39:15] Inflammation Fix — https://www.nutritionwithjudy.com/inflammation-fix/
  • because they have a study associating fibre with epidemiological outcomes they like, and they have not taken a interest as to why fibre might be a benefit in a SAD population. If your eating junk, fibre is a anti-nutrient so eating junk with fibre is a net benefit… They almost make this observation in their talk, but don’t apply it to their own paper. There is no defined medical condition as a fibre deficiency.

  • TLDW - Their major arguments are -

    1. Improvements on carnivore do not prove its superiority. Eliminating ultra-processed foods, reducing calories, losing weight, and removing potential dietary triggers can explain improvements without establishing that eating only animal foods is optimal.

    Which is reasonable, however, they also doesn’t establish it isn’t optimal. It invites scientific testing under controlled conditions rather then dismissal

    1. Scientific evidence supporting carnivore is extremely weak. Most direct evidence consists of individual case reports, small case series, and a self-selected survey of existing adherents. There is little controlled evidence establishing long-term safety or superiority.

    There is little controlled evidence establishing long-term safety or superiority.

    This can be said for any diet, long term controlled diet studies are exceedingly rare. The evidence against carnivore is also extremely weak, and not in the form of controlled diet studies. However the body of literature on ketogenic metabolisms is applicable to zero carb eaters, so to say there is no basis isn’t valid either.

    1. Carnivore advocates make exaggerated medical claims. Claims that carnivore cures Crohn’s disease, depression, arthritis, or other conditions often extrapolate from anecdotes, confuse distinct medical conditions, or go far beyond the available evidence.

    Reasonable - people get excited about the new tool they found. As a tool to try when you have tried everything else and nothing is working, it’s still valid advice.

    1. Feeling better does not eliminate long-term health risks. Elevated LDL cholesterol, high saturated-fat intake, nutritional deficiencies, and the exclusion of beneficial plant foods remain concerns, even when weight, symptoms, or other health markers improve.

    This collapses in to the bucket of “it works short term, but what about”… Intermediate metrics are not hard outcomes, the lipid heart hypothesis appears weak when examined empirically (i.e. cholesterol is not a disease, you would die without it, and the majority of heart attack incidents happen in people with low ldl). There isn’t substantive absolute risk data demonstrating a problem on zero carb/keto eating and increased heart attack incidence. There are not demonstrated nutrient deficiencies (they are hypothetical whataboutisms). There is not a documented fibre deficiency outcome to examine.

    1. Prominent carnivore advocates are abandoning or modifying their diets. Paul Saladino, Mikhaila Peterson, Liver King, and Dr. Kiltz have moved away from strict carnivore approaches, often citing adverse effects or changing health circumstances. This undermines earlier claims that strict carnivore is universally optimal.

    Part of the problem with this video is they use many straw men, i.e. carnivore helps with X, but then it’s not universally optimal, they don’t stick to a single publication or person, so they form a gestalt representation of the most unreasonable person. I.e. if carnivore is a elimination diet tool and resolves a underlying metabolic problem, then it’s done its job and the patient moving on to other eating patterns does not invalidate the work the tool did.


    They also use the claim that carnivore helps with depression as evidence of clear medical misinformation… that is extremely disingenuous, there is unignorable literature on the metabolic psychiatric link, with ketogenic interventions improving depression markers which they are either ignorant of, or dismissive of. (i.e. https://doi.org/10.1001/jamapsychiatry.2025.4431 carnivore is a ketogenic diet (yes, bart kay - i’m talking to you), and thus would also have improvement on depression markers ). Their awareness of the literature is limited, which is either lack of honest review, or malicious omission for talking points. Which is rather ironic as they strawman carnivores as science deniers.

    they never touch upon the stronger cause for the dip in google trend data… the advent and deployment of glp1s solving the obesity problem, and the previous interest in keto/carnivore is probably being diverted into glps instead.

The carnivore diet exploded in popularity, with claims that eating nothing but meat could help you lose weight, reduce inflammation, heal your gut, and even reverse chronic disease. But what does the science actually say about the carnivore diet, and why has the hype started to fade?

In this episode of All or Something, we explore the rise and fall of the carnivore diet, tracing how an extreme animal-based diet became one of the most controversial nutrition trends on social media. We examine some of the biggest carnivore diet health claims, some of the biggest carnivore diet proponents and how some of the hype has already started to fizzle out.

From the rise of the carnivore movement and its most influential advocates to concerns about cholesterol, saturated fat, fiber, and long-term health, we separate what we know from what is still uncertain.

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Origins and early popularity

  • The carnivore diet excludes all plant foods. It consists mainly of red meat but can include poultry, fish, eggs, and sometimes full-fat dairy; fruit, vegetables, legumes, nuts, seeds, and sugar are excluded.
  • Google Trends shows little interest before late 2017. Shawn Baker’s visit to Joe Rogan around December 2017 was a likely catalyst in its popularity, especially among men.
  • In 2018, Jordan Peterson’s and Mikhaila Peterson’s guest spots and viral clips increased its visibility. Headlines said it cured his depression and fixed her arthritis; these were major unsupported health assertions.
  • Podcast hosts have a responsibility to vet guests and challenge unsupported medical assertions. Publishing sensational excerpts without scrutiny helps spread misinformation.
  • One carnivore follower said his health markers improved but LDL increased; when his doctor expressed concern, he dismissed the doctor as an ignorant drug pusher. Improvements elsewhere do not erase a worsening cardiovascular risk marker.
  • Some carnivore supporters distrust doctors and reject unfavorable science while accepting evidence they believe supports their diet. This does not apply to every follower, but can prevent constructive exchanges.

Masculinity, influencers, and personal illness

  • In a poll of roughly 1,000 American men, more than half viewed carnivore eating as masculine. Meat, raw organs, hunting imagery, and Joe Rogan’s audience fit an alpha-male identity around the diet. [1]
  • Comments have associated vegetables with homosexuality and soy with femininity. Only 18% of men in the poll viewed the Mediterranean diet as masculine, despite its reputation as a highly health-promoting pattern. [1]
  • Carnivore books became popular in 2019–2020. Liver King’s viral consumption of large quantities of raw meat and testicles added a muscular, supposedly ancestral image; the lifestyle was also seen as ironic and financially unrealistic beside ordinary shopping and cooking.
  • Many people adopt carnivore because of illness, desperation, and fear of foods, not because of a glamorous ideal. Their symptom improvement is a meaningful personal experience.
  • Crohn’s disease led to a hospital-guided elimination of foods believed to aggravate digestive symptoms, eventually excluding many foods without knowing which restrictions were necessary.
  • Fatty steak has caused diarrhea in the speaker, but this does not establish harm for everyone. Relief after excluding rice or plants likewise cannot justify universal dietary restrictions.
  • Google Trends shows carnivore interest peaking in late 2024 and subsequently falling; the decline concerns search interest, not established discontinuation by every follower.

Why people can feel better

  • Carnivore is simple: eat animal foods and remove almost everything else. This simplicity is appealing, even though chicken breast and deep-fried bacon have different nutritional profiles.
  • It is a highly restrictive elimination diet. Moving from a typical American diet can remove sugary snacks, pizza, chips, deep-fried foods, and alcohol; benefits can follow changes in excluded foods as well as included foods.
  • Narrower food choices often lower calorie intake. Reduced energy intake and weight loss can improve several health markers even when the chosen foods are not nutritionally optimal.
  • Professor Mark Haub’s Twinkie diet illustrates this: he ate largely junk food in a calorie deficit, lost weight, and had better blood lipids. Improved markers after dieting do not establish that the foods are optimal. [2]
  • Research on low-carbohydrate and ketogenic diets finds that high-protein, restricted eating can reduce ad libitum calorie intake, meaning food intake falls without prescribed calorie limits.
  • Reduced carbohydrate intake can also cause rapid water-weight loss. Someone starting carnivore may quickly lose weight, look different, and improve some markers, without demonstrating superiority over other diets.
  • Long-term effects on food anxiety, social activities, restaurants, and adherence also matter. Mikhaila Peterson called her beef-salt-water approach the Lion Diet partly because the underlying restriction was socially awkward, not glamorous.

When health promises become extreme

  • Paul Saladino’s book The Carnivore Code advertises carnivore as scientifically proven to lower inflammation, improve sleep and mental clarity, reduce joint pain, and support weight loss. The wording “scientifically proven” is central.
  • Eddie Abbew said carnivore can cure Crohn’s disease and inflammatory bowel disease, using his daughter’s relief from irritable bowel syndrome as support. IBS and IBD are different conditions; easing IBS symptoms is not evidence of curing Crohn’s.
  • Identifying this distinction drew angry reactions from supporters. Refusal to acknowledge an exaggeration protects a dietary identity without establishing medical validity.
  • Jordan Peterson told Elon Musk carnivore would fix his back injury without knowing the injury’s type. Musk resisted the assertion; improvement in another person’s back pain cannot establish efficacy for an unspecified injury.
  • Anthony Chaffee says plants are trying to kill humans, and Saladino has identified plants as a possible root of illness. The rationale involves plant defenses such as phytates, oxalates, and tannins.
  • Plant defenses against insects do not establish harm from human consumption. Research connecting plant foods and dietary fiber with better health is much stronger than evidence favoring total plant exclusion.

What the carnivore evidence actually contains

  • Direct research on strict carnivore eating is extremely sparse. Evidence from ketogenic or other low-carbohydrate diets is related but is not a direct carnivore comparison.
  • A case series contains ten patients with inflammatory bowel disease whose symptoms improved on carnivore or ketogenic diets. The outcomes are encouraging, especially for people with Crohn’s disease, but the evidence remains a case series. [3]
  • Individual carnivore case literature also covers a patient with diabetes whose health improved; a single case cannot establish the best diet for every patient. [4]
  • Another case involves one person with schizophrenia whose condition entered remission during carnivore-ketogenic metabolic therapy. [5]
  • A further case involves a woman whose Candida vulvovaginitis improved during an all-meat ketogenic diet. [6]
  • Inflammatory bowel disease case studies also exist for the specific carbohydrate diet, so benefits in a few carnivore cases do not demonstrate unique efficacy. [7]
  • One case involved ulcerative colitis developing during a low-carbohydrate diet and improving after a switch to a plant-based diet. [8]
  • Enteral nutrition, including tube feeding, also has published research on inducing remission in Crohn’s disease. Positive cases from these dietary approaches also warrant attention under the same standard of evidence. [9]
  • Moving from a poor baseline diet to carnivore and feeling better establishes improvement from that baseline, not superiority over every other dietary option.
  • Shawn Baker and supporters sought donations for a proposed million-dollar carnivore randomized trial, raised a few hundred thousand dollars, and stopped. Promoters funding studies of their own diet also have potential conflicts of interest.
  • A 2021 carnivore paper attracted widespread attention. Mikhaila Peterson said 90% of participants improved across all diseases, but the study recruited existing carnivore followers through social-media groups after at least six months on the diet. [10]
  • This design excludes many who discontinued the diet early and preferentially samples satisfied adherents. It was a survey, not a randomized comparison with objectively measured before-and-after health outcomes. [10]
  • In the survey, 93% followed carnivore for health, 85% ate red meat daily, fewer than 10% ate plant food more than monthly, 95% indicated improved overall health, and about 1–6% identified adverse effects, mostly gastrointestinal. These were self-assessments. [10]
  • Participants also indicated lower BMI and reduced diabetes medication use. LDL cholesterol was elevated in some, an important cardiovascular risk marker alongside the favorable outcomes. [10]
  • A 2026 scoping review included nine human studies, with possible short-term improvements in weight, satiety, and some metabolic measures, alongside risks of nutrient deficiencies, inadequate phytochemicals, and cardiovascular disease. Long-term carnivore adherence was not recommended. [11]

Prominent supporters moving away

  • After about two years on strict carnivore, Paul Saladino experienced poor sleep, palpitations, muscle cramps, and testosterone around 500. He concluded long-term ketosis was poor for him and probably for humans generally, while The Carnivore Code remains on sale.
  • After eight years, Mikhaila Peterson began reintroducing foods because her health had improved enough to tolerate them. Her experience fits a restrictive diet used during serious illness, not a lifetime ideal for everyone.
  • Liver King later said he had been starving himself, had been wrong about carnivore, and wanted people to know. Drug use influenced his physique, so his muscularity did not establish dietary efficacy.
  • Dr. Kiltz began softening his approach after about 15 years when his coronary artery calcium score rose and he developed acute colitis. He added foods such as fish, chicken, and potatoes beyond red meat.
  • Podcast host Chris Williamson said strict carnivore felt mentally good but raised his cholesterol sharply. Subjective well-being and worse cardiovascular measurements can occur simultaneously.

Dogmatism, course corrections, and conclusion

  • Cognitive dissonance can lead someone to defend a diet while dismissing adverse measurements. Similar contradictions occur when smokers or drinkers justify a risky behavior through stress relief or social benefits.
  • For people who experienced illness followed by improvement, criticism of carnivore can feel like criticism of their recovery. This helps explain emotional attachment but does not establish the diet as optimal.
  • An elevated LDL, blood pressure, or coronary calcium result can motivate reassessment and dietary changes. Some advocates dismiss the measurements or blame individuals for insufficient dietary adherence.
  • Accounts of heart attacks after years on carnivore can attract replies questioning vegetable intake or saturated-fat consumption. Keto communities can similarly attribute adverse results to excessive carbohydrate consumption.
  • Influencers often withdraw gradually without publicly retracting earlier assurances. Saladino now eats fruit, honey, and other plant foods after previously promoting strict carnivore.
  • Carnivore can make many people feel substantially better, and the mechanisms behind improvement matter. Evidence on high saturated-fat intake, high red-meat intake, and the diet’s long-term risks underlies the recommendation against strict carnivore.

References

  1. [08:27] New Poll: More Than Half of Men Think Meat Is ‘Masculine’ — https://www.pcrm.org/news/news-releases/new-poll-more-half-men-think-meat-masculine
  2. [20:39] Twinkie Diet class demonstration (Mark Haub) — https://experts.ksu.edu/mark.haub/professional
  3. [32:23] Case report: Carnivore–ketogenic diet for the treatment of inflammatory bowel disease: a case series of 10 patients — https://doi.org/10.3389/fnut.2024.1467475
  4. [32:29] Reversing 20 years of diabetes using the carnivore diet in India: a case report — https://doi.org/10.7762/cnr.2025.0026
  5. [32:32] Case Report: Remission of schizophrenia using a carnivore ketogenic metabolic therapy with nutritional therapy practitioner support — https://doi.org/10.3389/fnut.2025.1591937
  6. [32:33] Consuming an All-Meat Ketogenic Diet for the Long-Term Management of Candida Vulvovaginitis and Vaginal Hidradenitis Suppurativa: A 47-Month Follow-Up Case Report — https://doi.org/10.7759/cureus.30510
  7. [33:45] The Specific Carbohydrate Diet for Inflammatory Bowel Disease: A Case Series — https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jand.2015.04.016
  8. [33:49] Onset of Ulcerative Colitis during a Low-Carbohydrate Weight-Loss Diet and Treatment with a Plant-Based Diet: A Case Report — https://doi.org/10.7812/TPP/15-038
  9. [33:57] Enteral nutritional therapy for induction of remission in Crohn’s disease — https://doi.org/10.1002/14651858.CD000542.pub3
  10. [37:20] Behavioral Characteristics and Self-Reported Health Status among 2029 Adults Consuming a “Carnivore Diet” — https://doi.org/10.1093/cdn/nzab133
  11. [42:01] Carnivore Diet: A Scoping Review of the Current Evidence, Potential Benefits and Risks — https://doi.org/10.3390/nu18020348

Dr. Lisa Wiedeman does an in depth review of eye floaters and current treatment protocols. This video will review surgical options such as a vitrectomy for floaters and laser vitreolysis.

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What floaters are

  • In an optometric practice spanning over 30 years, floaters are among the most common concerns. They can look like transparent threads, dots, cobwebs, or floating blobs.
  • Floaters are suspended inside the eye, not on its front surface. They move with eye movements, and trying to follow one with the eyes makes it seem to move away.
  • The vitreous is the cushioning gel that helps maintain the eye’s shape. It is about 98% water; collagen and hyaluronic acid make the rest resemble raw egg white.
  • With age, sections of the vitreous liquefy and the gel shrinks. Collagen fibers clump into strands and spots, casting shadows on the retina that are perceived as floaters.
  • How sharp or blurry a floater looks depends partly on its distance from the retina. The collagen clumps are visible when a slit-lamp beam passes through the vitreous.

When floaters signal danger

  • A sudden shower of new floaters, peripheral flashes like a camera going off, or loss of vision needs an eye examination as quickly as possible to exclude retinal detachment.
  • With age, the vitreous can pull safely away from the retina in a posterior vitreous detachment (PVD). This can produce a circular floater called a Weiss ring without harming vision.
  • If the vitreous tugs a hole or tear in the retina, fluid can get underneath it and detach the retina. Laser or surgery can repair the damage, but action is needed before the detachment spreads.

Frequency and visual impact

  • Most floaters are benign and very common. One survey found that 76% of people had seen them; they become especially common after age 50. [1]
  • After a PVD in one eye, a PVD may eventually occur in the other eye.
  • Some floaters are an occasional dot mistaken for a flying bug. A large collagen clump suspended centrally in the visual axis can make reading or driving difficult, although long-lasting, very large central floaters are uncommon.
  • There is no eye drop or vitamin that makes floaters disappear. Management depends on how disruptive they are.

Observation and neuroadaptation

  • For an uncomplicated floater or PVD, the usual approach is observation: wait, reassess in about six months or at the annual eye examination, and allow natural improvement.
  • About 95% of all floaters improve on their own within roughly six months, without any intervention.
  • Neuroadaptation helps because the brain learns to ignore a relatively small obstruction and fills in the image, so the floater becomes less noticeable even if it remains.

Laser vitreolysis

  • For a persistent floater that seriously changes quality of life, office-based laser vitreolysis is an option. Improvement is put at 40–50%, while 7.7% became worse. [2]
  • The laser targets and breaks apart the suspended floater. After numbing the eye and placing a special contact lens, the procedure takes around 15 minutes, is painless, and may require more than one visit.
  • The possible complications include a retinal tear, retinal detachment, a spike in intraocular pressure, or a cataract if the laser reaches too close to the lens.
  • Long-term safety data are lacking, not every surgeon recommends it, and the procedure is reserved for major, persistent visual disruption, not an occasionally annoying speck.

Vitrectomy

  • Vitrectomy is the older, much more invasive operation. Instruments enter the eye, remove the vitreous gel along with the floaters, and put fluid in its place to maintain eye shape.
  • About 90% of patients are satisfied after vitrectomy, but it is not a guarantee that floaters will never return. [3]
  • For someone who has not undergone cataract surgery, the extra cataract risk is put at about 30%. Other risks include retinal tears or detachment, vitreous hemorrhage, glaucoma, and severe infection, with an approximately 2% risk cited for other complications. [3]
  • Despite its high success rate, this operation is for people with substantially impaired daily life, not a tiny passing floater.

Floater supplements

  • Products with names like ‘Vitreous Health Eye Floaters Formula’ are sold. The small placebo-controlled FLIES study, with 31 subjects, found a benefit from its supplement. [4]
  • Marketing promises warrant skepticism, but someone with substantially bothersome floaters who is not ready for laser or surgery might try the supplement after reading the study and deciding for themselves.

The pineapple idea

  • Pineapple contains bromelain, an enzyme thought to break down the collagen fibers in the vitreous and thereby reduce floaters. A pineapple-consumption study examined this possibility. [5]
  • The pineapple work has not been independently replicated, and its regimens involve eating different amounts of pineapple each day. [5]
  • If bromelain breaks down collagen in the eye, the same effect on collagen in skin, cartilage, and muscle is a concern.
  • The pineapple cure is rejected because of concerns about loading the body with fruit sugars—glucose, fructose, and sucrose—and their effects on insulin and blood glucose.

Carnivore, food, and healing

  • Messages received through Carnivore Doctor work include positive changes in eyesight and eye diseases after moving to keto or keto-carnivore eating.
  • One person wrote that a large island of floaters interfering with vision disappeared after six months of carnivore eating.
  • The dietary approach removes processed foods, seed oils, grains, and sugars. Its root-cause focus is to eliminate food viewed as toxic and give the body the opportunity to heal and move toward health.

Questions from viewers

  • For someone seeing floaters after a steroid shot, if there is no sudden shower, flash, or change in vision, a simple floater is likely; an eye examination is still advised to rule out a small retinal hole or tear.
  • A weight-loss stall on ketovore is unlikely to be caused directly by a prior detached retina, eye operations, or a cataract; many other factors affect weight loss.
  • Floaters can be vivid against a plain blue sky. One floater visible since the early twenties resembled an armless stick figure; no personal PVD had occurred.
  • Nearsightedness raises the chance of floaters and PVD: the eye has a longer axial length, leaving the vitreous to occupy more space and making separation more likely.
  • Oral collagen supplements need not be avoided because of floaters. Collagen eaten for joints, muscles, or hair does not simply enter the vitreous and cause clumping.
  • Type 2 diabetes need not be lifelong or require lifelong medication; it can be reversed, and even early diabetic retinopathy can reverse.

References

  1. [07:00] Prevalence of vitreous floaters in a community sample of smartphone users — https://doi.org/10.3980/j.issn.2222-3959.2013.03.27
  2. [10:38] Nd:YAG vitreolysis and pars plana vitrectomy: surgical treatment for vitreous floaters — https://doi.org/10.1038/sj.eye.6700026
  3. [13:37] Efficacy and Safety of Pars Plana Vitrectomy for Primary Symptomatic Floaters: A Systematic Review with Meta-Analyses — https://doi.org/10.1007/s40123-022-00578-9
  4. [15:08] Dietary Intervention With a Targeted Micronutrient Formulation Reduces the Visual Discomfort Associated With Vitreous Degeneration — https://doi.org/10.1167/tvst.10.12.19
  5. [16:04] Pharmacologic vitreolysis of vitreous floaters by 3-month pineapple supplement in Taiwan: A pilot study — https://doi.org/10.7537/marsjas150419.03

Kyle talks about his journey on the carnivore diet.

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Finding carnivore and earlier health problems (00:00–03:19)

  • After COVID, Kyle found carnivore through Instagram health accounts while learning about health. His earlier diets included vegan, vegetarian, standard American, keto, and ketovore; he liked steak.
  • Kyle remained fairly active but gained around one to three pounds annually. His later changes made earlier health problems more apparent.
  • The roughly four-and-a-half-year carnivore period began with about two years of inconsistent adherence, including fast-food dishes such as orange chicken.
  • The early, less strict diet coincided with some improvements before serious illness. A roughly one-year beef-and-water lion diet followed, and his current diet is broader traditional carnivore.

Severe idiopathic chronic neutropenia (03:27–06:18)

  • Kyle developed idiopathic chronic neutropenia, involving very low infection-fighting neutrophils, an unknown cause, and a persistent course.
  • His neutrophil count reached 0.01 against an expected level of at least 1.6, persisted for months, and fluctuated with brief increases followed by declines.
  • The cause remained unknown; possible explanations included a viral process affecting the bone marrow, autoimmunity, and dietary factors.
  • Short-lived drug- or virus-related neutropenia can resolve in seven to ten days, while Kyle’s low levels continued for months and raised concern about infection.
  • About 10% of people with neutropenia die from a secondary infection. Investigations at OU Health and the Mayo Clinic, including checks for cancer and other causes, found no origin.

Moving to the strict lion diet (06:19–09:10)

  • His initial diet was perhaps 70–80% carnivore, alongside weight loss and increased activity. Despite others connecting the illness to his diet, he moved toward stricter carnivore eating.
  • Kyle used a small, informal collection of Facebook accounts from people with similar symptoms, examining individual experiences without statistical analysis.
  • The online accounts associated improvement with fasting, ketogenic or carnivore eating, reduced sugar and processed food, sleep, and exercise; medication-based accounts did not show recovery in his comparison.
  • An almost eight-day water fast preceded approximately one year of beef and water. Neutrophil counts recovered during the dietary regimen.
  • Blood counts improved early and returned to normal over roughly six to nine months. Hematology visits ended; Kyle takes no medications, has lost approximately 75 pounds, and runs ultramarathons without carbohydrate intake.

Infection fears, medical care, and proposed splenectomy (09:11–13:23)

  • During the illness, infection concerns affected ordinary activities, including exposure to coughing people, his children’s illnesses, yard work, and flowers.
  • Bone-marrow biopsies and extensive testing preceded about one month of steroids, antibiotics, and antifungals. Neutrophil levels were lower at the end of that course.
  • The hematologist proposed splenectomy for possible sequestration of neutrophils, without evidence of splenic enlargement. Kyle did not proceed with surgery.
  • Kyle chose fasting and strict carnivore before further intervention. His hematologist did not recommend that approach but agreed to observe the course.
  • Neutrophil levels rose across the first 30, 60, and 90 days, approached normal around six months, and reached normal by nine months.
  • A Mayo Clinic blood-cell specialist said he never saw patients get better, encouraged continuation, and later held informal Zoom calls. The improved results persisted for at least another year.

Diet as part of a wider way of being (13:23–16:40)

  • Carnivore eating accompanied a broader recovery routine of exercise, sleep, gratitude, spirituality, and social relationships, understood together as a way of being.
  • After the lion diet, his food expanded to fatty beef, near-daily eggs, salmon, cod liver, some bacon, and hard cheese; he estimates roughly 99% carnivore adherence.
  • Bread, tree nuts, and ice cream remain absent from his meals, while small amounts of pepper or restaurant marinade are acceptable.
  • His usual intake is two meals, around noon to 1 p.m. and 5–6 p.m., occasionally one meal, creating an intermittent-fasting pattern without a deliberate schedule.
  • He commonly runs four, eight, or twelve miles before his first meal, without pre-run food or carbohydrate fueling.

Unexpected mental and physical changes (16:40–19:40)

  • Family and acquaintances see changes in Kyle’s health and disposition, while online strangers challenge his diet over saturated fat and cholesterol.
  • Despite no prior mental-health diagnosis, Kyle experienced less anxiety and brain fog, with increased clarity and a calmer disposition.
  • Daytime naps, sugar crashes, digestive urgency, and stomach problems subsided. Long runs no longer require planning around bathroom access or fiber.
  • Previously worsening allergies also improved, making symptoms that had become familiar more apparent in retrospect.
  • The interviewer also experienced improved clarity after earlier brain fog had felt normal.

Family and shared habits (19:40–25:02)

  • Kyle plays sports with his sons and coaches four youth teams, including two head-coaching and two assistant-coaching roles.
  • Family routines prioritize food, sleep, movement, sunlight, and outdoor time; his wider habits include heat and cold exposure, fresh air, contact with grass, gratitude, and consistency.
  • The children learn through his daily actions rather than lectures about processed sugar; he avoids a mismatch between dietary commitments and weekend beer or pizza.
  • His wife has followed carnivore intermittently and resumed it roughly four to five months earlier, after generally eating whole foods.
  • They coordinate meals, with Kyle cooking meat on most evenings, hard cheeses included, and optional whole-food sides for the children.

Personal variation and testosterone (25:02–26:11)

  • Some friends discontinue short trials after diarrhea. Kyle does not assume universal effectiveness, given differences in individual biology and background.
  • Kyle and his wife prefer ketogenic eating and the sleep they experience with it; household members take no ongoing medications.
  • His testosterone measurements increased from just under 400 to over 800 without TRT or other medication, a change he likens to testosterone replacement.

Running and its origins (26:11–30:30)

  • Most days he covers four, eight, or twelve miles at a slow “hoofing” pace. Roughly quarterly, he completes 26- to 50-mile races, most recently a 50-miler.
  • The goal is ongoing fitness, not competition. His Bernedoodle joins runs, his wife walks, the family does 5Ks, and he wants to continue racing into old age.
  • In 2022, at about 35, he became breathless while wrestling with his sons, then about six and three, and recognized his low fitness.
  • After a walked half marathon left him sore for weeks, he trained for and completed a full marathon later in 2022 while beginning a loose carnivore diet, then maintained a roughly quarterly racing schedule.
  • Long runs bring a sense of mental clarity around miles 18–19. Training supplies discipline and outdoor sunshine, with the gym mainly used when weather prevents outdoor miles.

Motivation and coaching (30:30–34:42)

  • Kyle works as an Oklahoma denominational executive director and coaches ministers and church founders, applying similar coaching principles to dietary change.
  • His first coaching question is “Why?” A personal reason for changing eating habits is more important than an initial plan or a fast-versus-gradual transition.
  • Early dietary transition can involve diarrhea, and lasting adherence depends on a sufficiently strong personal motivation.
  • Kyle allows for ketogenic, ketovore, or other diets suited to different people; a short-term cosmetic goal may not sustain long-term dietary changes.
  • Serious illness intensified his commitment and changed his priorities toward his wife, children, coaching their teams, and meaningful time, with less television and online conflict.
  • His experience of carnivore communities links sustained commitment with pressing health concerns; his coaching focus is lasting life changes over short-term cosmetic goals.

Work, meaning, and a 90-day trial (34:42–40:00)

  • Improved mental clarity helps him analyze systems, ask sharper questions in his professional work, and respond to audiences during amateur stand-up comedy.
  • At home, he experiences greater patience and energy with his sons, and improvements across many areas of life.
  • After roughly four and a half years of dietary changes, including two to two and a half years of stricter adherence, he intends to continue and expects further gains.
  • His theology background shapes the comparison between the gospel as good news and his carnivore experience as a path forward after a severe diagnosis.
  • He favors a 90-day trial over 30 days because dietary adjustment may outlast one month, while allowing a different diet if no major improvement occurs; he does not expect universal results.

References None — no published works are identifiable in the transcript.

  • I don’t know what I’d do if I was young and dating — probably try to find a carnivore partner

    I’ve found dating to be pretty easy - drinks become coffee / soda

    Food becomes whatever grilled meat option is on the menu (usually steak or fish). honestly it’s barely noticeable, or at least nobody has made a big deal about me eating the grilled food.

I thought carnivore would be easier than this.

After more than four years of eating carnivore, I’ve learned that knowing what to eat is only part of the equation. Dealing with food temptations and navigating social situations can present their own challenges when you choose to eat differently from the people around you.

In this video, I’m sharing my perspective on two real-world challenges of carnivore and what it takes to make this way of eating work in everyday life.

  • You have never experienced static electricity discharge? There is a reason grounding straps are used in electronics laboratories. Surely you have played with a van der graaf generator before.

    In the risk/reward area of things, the downside of grounding is minimal to none, the upside is it might help, and it costs nothing to do. <shrug>