Kyle talks about his journey on the carnivore diet.
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Finding carnivore and earlier health problems (00:00–03:19)
- After COVID, Kyle found carnivore through Instagram health accounts while learning about health. His earlier diets included vegan, vegetarian, standard American, keto, and ketovore; he liked steak.
- Kyle remained fairly active but gained around one to three pounds annually. His later changes made earlier health problems more apparent.
- The roughly four-and-a-half-year carnivore period began with about two years of inconsistent adherence, including fast-food dishes such as orange chicken.
- The early, less strict diet coincided with some improvements before serious illness. A roughly one-year beef-and-water lion diet followed, and his current diet is broader traditional carnivore.
Severe idiopathic chronic neutropenia (03:27–06:18)
- Kyle developed idiopathic chronic neutropenia, involving very low infection-fighting neutrophils, an unknown cause, and a persistent course.
- His neutrophil count reached 0.01 against an expected level of at least 1.6, persisted for months, and fluctuated with brief increases followed by declines.
- The cause remained unknown; possible explanations included a viral process affecting the bone marrow, autoimmunity, and dietary factors.
- Short-lived drug- or virus-related neutropenia can resolve in seven to ten days, while Kyle’s low levels continued for months and raised concern about infection.
- About 10% of people with neutropenia die from a secondary infection. Investigations at OU Health and the Mayo Clinic, including checks for cancer and other causes, found no origin.
Moving to the strict lion diet (06:19–09:10)
- His initial diet was perhaps 70–80% carnivore, alongside weight loss and increased activity. Despite others connecting the illness to his diet, he moved toward stricter carnivore eating.
- Kyle used a small, informal collection of Facebook accounts from people with similar symptoms, examining individual experiences without statistical analysis.
- The online accounts associated improvement with fasting, ketogenic or carnivore eating, reduced sugar and processed food, sleep, and exercise; medication-based accounts did not show recovery in his comparison.
- An almost eight-day water fast preceded approximately one year of beef and water. Neutrophil counts recovered during the dietary regimen.
- Blood counts improved early and returned to normal over roughly six to nine months. Hematology visits ended; Kyle takes no medications, has lost approximately 75 pounds, and runs ultramarathons without carbohydrate intake.
Infection fears, medical care, and proposed splenectomy (09:11–13:23)
- During the illness, infection concerns affected ordinary activities, including exposure to coughing people, his children’s illnesses, yard work, and flowers.
- Bone-marrow biopsies and extensive testing preceded about one month of steroids, antibiotics, and antifungals. Neutrophil levels were lower at the end of that course.
- The hematologist proposed splenectomy for possible sequestration of neutrophils, without evidence of splenic enlargement. Kyle did not proceed with surgery.
- Kyle chose fasting and strict carnivore before further intervention. His hematologist did not recommend that approach but agreed to observe the course.
- Neutrophil levels rose across the first 30, 60, and 90 days, approached normal around six months, and reached normal by nine months.
- A Mayo Clinic blood-cell specialist said he never saw patients get better, encouraged continuation, and later held informal Zoom calls. The improved results persisted for at least another year.
Diet as part of a wider way of being (13:23–16:40)
- Carnivore eating accompanied a broader recovery routine of exercise, sleep, gratitude, spirituality, and social relationships, understood together as a way of being.
- After the lion diet, his food expanded to fatty beef, near-daily eggs, salmon, cod liver, some bacon, and hard cheese; he estimates roughly 99% carnivore adherence.
- Bread, tree nuts, and ice cream remain absent from his meals, while small amounts of pepper or restaurant marinade are acceptable.
- His usual intake is two meals, around noon to 1 p.m. and 5–6 p.m., occasionally one meal, creating an intermittent-fasting pattern without a deliberate schedule.
- He commonly runs four, eight, or twelve miles before his first meal, without pre-run food or carbohydrate fueling.
Unexpected mental and physical changes (16:40–19:40)
- Family and acquaintances see changes in Kyle’s health and disposition, while online strangers challenge his diet over saturated fat and cholesterol.
- Despite no prior mental-health diagnosis, Kyle experienced less anxiety and brain fog, with increased clarity and a calmer disposition.
- Daytime naps, sugar crashes, digestive urgency, and stomach problems subsided. Long runs no longer require planning around bathroom access or fiber.
- Previously worsening allergies also improved, making symptoms that had become familiar more apparent in retrospect.
- The interviewer also experienced improved clarity after earlier brain fog had felt normal.
Family and shared habits (19:40–25:02)
- Kyle plays sports with his sons and coaches four youth teams, including two head-coaching and two assistant-coaching roles.
- Family routines prioritize food, sleep, movement, sunlight, and outdoor time; his wider habits include heat and cold exposure, fresh air, contact with grass, gratitude, and consistency.
- The children learn through his daily actions rather than lectures about processed sugar; he avoids a mismatch between dietary commitments and weekend beer or pizza.
- His wife has followed carnivore intermittently and resumed it roughly four to five months earlier, after generally eating whole foods.
- They coordinate meals, with Kyle cooking meat on most evenings, hard cheeses included, and optional whole-food sides for the children.
Personal variation and testosterone (25:02–26:11)
- Some friends discontinue short trials after diarrhea. Kyle does not assume universal effectiveness, given differences in individual biology and background.
- Kyle and his wife prefer ketogenic eating and the sleep they experience with it; household members take no ongoing medications.
- His testosterone measurements increased from just under 400 to over 800 without TRT or other medication, a change he likens to testosterone replacement.
Running and its origins (26:11–30:30)
- Most days he covers four, eight, or twelve miles at a slow “hoofing” pace. Roughly quarterly, he completes 26- to 50-mile races, most recently a 50-miler.
- The goal is ongoing fitness, not competition. His Bernedoodle joins runs, his wife walks, the family does 5Ks, and he wants to continue racing into old age.
- In 2022, at about 35, he became breathless while wrestling with his sons, then about six and three, and recognized his low fitness.
- After a walked half marathon left him sore for weeks, he trained for and completed a full marathon later in 2022 while beginning a loose carnivore diet, then maintained a roughly quarterly racing schedule.
- Long runs bring a sense of mental clarity around miles 18–19. Training supplies discipline and outdoor sunshine, with the gym mainly used when weather prevents outdoor miles.
Motivation and coaching (30:30–34:42)
- Kyle works as an Oklahoma denominational executive director and coaches ministers and church founders, applying similar coaching principles to dietary change.
- His first coaching question is “Why?” A personal reason for changing eating habits is more important than an initial plan or a fast-versus-gradual transition.
- Early dietary transition can involve diarrhea, and lasting adherence depends on a sufficiently strong personal motivation.
- Kyle allows for ketogenic, ketovore, or other diets suited to different people; a short-term cosmetic goal may not sustain long-term dietary changes.
- Serious illness intensified his commitment and changed his priorities toward his wife, children, coaching their teams, and meaningful time, with less television and online conflict.
- His experience of carnivore communities links sustained commitment with pressing health concerns; his coaching focus is lasting life changes over short-term cosmetic goals.
Work, meaning, and a 90-day trial (34:42–40:00)
- Improved mental clarity helps him analyze systems, ask sharper questions in his professional work, and respond to audiences during amateur stand-up comedy.
- At home, he experiences greater patience and energy with his sons, and improvements across many areas of life.
- After roughly four and a half years of dietary changes, including two to two and a half years of stricter adherence, he intends to continue and expects further gains.
- His theology background shapes the comparison between the gospel as good news and his carnivore experience as a path forward after a severe diagnosis.
- He favors a 90-day trial over 30 days because dietary adjustment may outlast one month, while allowing a different diet if no major improvement occurs; he does not expect universal results.
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