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    Next: reddit is killing its HTTP interface to stop AI bots

    • This seems likely? I’ve had several services that I used to use, which deprecated their website in favour of their app 🤮

  • Stopped using and producing content for reddit a long time ago.

    Long live Lemmy.

  • Sooo Reddit is doing this to get rid of bots… except the only users they have left are bots… weird.

    • Their automated filters seem to be dessigned to ban people and leave bots. 🤭

    • spammer bots, and propaganda bots, utilizing AI posting or using hundreds of account at once by 1 entity.

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        Because israel primaralily, but now expanded to protect all power players, because fuck you (me especially,) that’s why.

  • Reddit never gave a shit about bots. To them it’s something that pumps up their active users numbers to woo their investors. They’re only doing this so they can force people to view their ads that are designed to look like posts.

    Who goes on Reddit nowadays anyway?

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      I still go on reddit often since that’s where most of the game communities I want to hear from are.

      • Same, Lenny isn’t mature enough to have some of the very niche communities yet

        • I think what there users who mostly post and users that mostly comment (I belong to the later). Lemmy could try to bootstrap some of those communities (note: to not make it to specific) by just reposting the same posts that are posted in Reddit and see if that could increase activity.

        • Yeah, if I want yoyo stuff, I have to go visit r\throwers.

          Pretty much the same if I need mechanic info.

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          Lemmy never will be big enough without a change in thinking from the feudal nature to a more liberal democracy, alas.

          • Can you expand a bit? What do you mean “feudal nature” and “liberal democracy”? Do you mean society as a whole or Lemmy in general?

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              Yes I would be pleased to expand thank you for asking.

              Lemmy is a mini reddit, moderators own the space, like a feudal lord. To take off, as an alternative to the feudal spaces of big social media, we need to offer a better alternative.

              To that effect, a clear set of moderation rules would help, and for that set of rules to end in a jury trial of members.

      • You should start a community for those games. Or contribute to an existing one. Be the change

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        I go on Reddit read-only fairly often, but these days it’s quite rare that I’ll post or comment. And when I do I always take the opportunity to promote the fediverse.

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        I mostly stick to Lemmy but there are times when I have a question to ask and the larger number of eyes on it does feel better even if it’s just a placebo

        • i had to ask very specific questions, that Reddit has the niche subs for, that lemmy doesnt have recently.

      • What, they’re not on neoseeker?

        I joke, but really why not try going back to bulletin boards again? Neoseeker was made for games and it always had plenty of users. It’s at least better than reddit.

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      Unfortunately a good chunk of linux distro resources and troubleshooting, and also many hobby stuff is over there.

    • Seems like most people don’t really care about or understand stuff like “private platforms enshittify”. Certainly not enough to be inconvenienced. People will be like “that’s where the good memes are” or “that’s where my video games post”. Heavens forbid you miss the hot memes.

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      They’re concerned about AI scraping. They want to sell access to users’ content for training, not let the AI in for free.

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      I think the issue is also related to how Reddit makes money. Reddit makes money from selling advertisement. I would guess they are charging a certain fee based off subreddit activity the ads are shown in. When most of that Reddit activity is bots and fake clicks on advertisement then the company won’t see the return on their investment because they thought a million people would see their ad but only 100k real people actually saw it.

    • they never ever did anything to propaganda bots at least not recently, and since trumps 2nd win in the WH it was clear they were banning.

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      ublockorigin prevents those fake posts from my screen.

  • How sad that Aaron Swartz was there for the creation of RSS and Reddit. Like spitting on his grave by removing access to data and putting up walls.

  • A Call for a Freer Web

    Aaron Swartz’s legacy is a stark reminder of the ongoing battle for information freedom. His story indicts legal systems that can be weaponized and highlights the corporate enclosure of the digital commons.

    Key Takeaways:

    • The CFAA can be a tool for disproportionate prosecution and intimidation.
    • Corporate imperatives can transform open platforms into controlled, monetized spaces.
    • The “transfer” of concern was one of control and vision, not physical assets.
    • Algorithmic curation can subtly shape discourse and limit exposure to diverse views

    Swartz’s life compels us to critically interrogate the forces shaping our online world. We must advocate for digital infrastructure as a public utility, renew commitment to information freedom, and collectively imagine and build digital spaces for authentic democratic participation, transcending the logic of profit and control.

    Full text

    https://www.ajarnspencer.com/investigating-the-death-of-aaron-swartz-the-corporate-capture-of-the-digital-commons/

  • I posted on a food sub, saying "that looks incredible* something innocuous like that.

    Bot removes my post, contact mode team because I cannot quite believe what I read. Auto mod, (cannot believe it was a human), tells me the same thing. Reddit has profiled me as being disruptive & I can post once I have “improved my standing”

    Things like this are a red rag to me, always have been. Anyway, the food sub is muted, & reddit can get fucked, I’ll post my opinions whether any bot likes it or not till I’m inevitably banned for failure to “conform” to their disgusting agenda.

    • I was in a discussion on the post election political situation in Sweden right now and from nowhere my five year old account got flagged as “suspicious” and locked until verified. For whatever reason it refused to hit me with CAPTCHA and the likes. I had no email registered previously and could not verify. I tried a couple of temp email but got no verification sent there. So I registered a throw away at a legitimate email provider and changed it there. Nothing there either.

      But I also have mods and at least one admin that doesn’t like me from long ago because I make fun of Nazis. So maybe I am “suspicious”.

      • There is something new they’re doing. They say you’re a bot, or are spamming, this seems a catch all to shadow ban people anyone that says anything the admin considers contrary to the reddit agenda. You could try contacting the site mods…I got a “bot” ban lifted that way once.

    • Eventually, all these tech companies scale up to a size where they don’t have to give a shit about people anymore. They only care if you’re a celebrity or somehow manage to create a big PR show that they have to respond to. But at this point, regular people are just like blades of grass that will eventually get mowed down somehow and there’s nothing you can do about it.

      Now it’s dead and time to move on.

      • Horribly accurate. I remember the good old days when imgur was to all intents & purposes a porn site, now it’s some sort of self help horror show where the appearance of a nipple is tantamount to a crime against humanity.

    • Reddit has become unusable. It has moderaters that are censorious, sactimonious, petty and do not care about. free speech. Adverts are becoming unbearable and the riculous time limits drive me mad! The inane Avartars are imbecilic too.

    • It’s ridiculous. The bots ban and then they guard the mods (humans), who could review the case(-s). Support is pretty much non-existent.

  • A mild realization just hit me. Reddit used to come up in daily conversation, even with randos. Now when I mention it nobody even knows what it is, and those that do remember it… speak of it only as this vague place they used to go years ago. “Oh yeah I remember reddit”

    • The only time it comes up in conversations is because my buddy discovered reddit only like 3 years ago, when I had just moved to lemmy. He still sends me reddit links several times a week.

      Then there is the tech support side, because name it and it’s been posted on reddit, usually with the solution, but now everybody just AI’s the shit out of that so that has become less relevant.

      And that’s it. Everyone else that I knew that used reddit has moved on years ago.

    • Reddit never came up in daily conversation for me. It came up only occasionally, and it actually seemed to do so more often after it went public.

      It was a weird coincidence

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      Extra hilarious because they just invested so much in ads to try and rope in every day people.

    • When I left Reddit years ago I was already convinced than more than half the accounts were bots.

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      Anything with an even mildly AI-adjacent topic is a solid 75% bots right now…

      /r/nvidia, /r/amd, /r/hardware, etc, etc…

    • I’d like to believe it is but I also know that the majority of people online do not give a damn about user experience and things getting shittier. I do not understand these people, but its because of them this shit is still happening. If they all left sites like reddit there’d be no incentive to become shittier and shittier.

      Not trying to shift blame though, in the first place its companies like reddit even coming up with strategy who are to blame.

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      I was chased out by admin in 2024, after a long line of accounts were violated for abuses that were falsely alleged. Because Israel I suspect.

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    No, they aren’t. The headline is just a giant lie. Why would anyone pretend to believe it?

    Reddit was destroyed by bots years ago. So that’s nonsense. But they have two strong reasons to pull public access. First, if the public has access to the data, then companies won’t buy it for AI training. Second, if the public has access to the data, they can prove (as we already knew) that Reddit is full of bots, so there is no reason you would want to buy training data from it.

    • 2 days

      It’s both. The LLM scrapers are now relentless. They are also closing the door so they can sell the data to Google.

      • I thought google didn’t want renew the contract since they already scraped everything useful? That’s why reddit is panicking

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      and people who buy ads on Reddit thinking it’s going to get a certain amount of views but they don’t know most of those views are bots until after they paid for the ads. Then they have to prove to Reddit they were tricked and good luck with that unless your a corporation Reddit wants to have a good relationship with.

    • reddit also wants GENUINE human generated content, not AI-generated posts or comments that poisons thier data, thats why the forced logins. im in another forum where the spammers, have to "make genuine’ content to evade thier spam/bot filters.

  • no because they banned so many people, whats left was propaganda bots, and spammers looking to earn money from rs by directing traffic to thier businesses. this effectively stopped or poisoned thier AI data scraping.

    • Um, excuse me, this post is promoting violence against bots. That’ll be a lifetime ban for you and your old ass account.

      • I’m in this post and I don’t like it. Reddit is imploding under its own bulk and tech bro fellating. Ya hate to see it. It was so pleasant once upon a time. But alas, “Die a hero or live long enough,” and all that.

        • It’s like an old pub where you made happy youthful memories, but it closed years ago and the building is now too fundamentally rotten to ever go back to its former glory. Best thing for everyone involved is for it to burn to the ground and be replaced by something new.

  • From enshittified to literal shit. Now they even self-isolate that shit. Good. It will stink a bit less on the net. 🤭

    • Imagine thinking that a super intelligence is going to emerge from reading reddit comments.

      • Well, it would be smarter than if you trained it on 4chan, but not by much.

        It would also be a bit less racist, but again not by much.

        But it would be well versed in memeology and where to find e-thots on onlyfans.

  • 2 days

    The reddit community that I’m still sort of active in relies on RSS in order to run and judge contests. We have a portal which sucks comments in via RSS because they revoked the API key which was used for the same purpose.

    Without RSS, we’ll either have to come up with some other way to pull in reddit comments, or force everyone to use PieFed.

    My vote is for the latter, of course!

    • They’re very much making it hard to be a mod. I wish my community would follow me here.

      • reddits plan is to have AI mods to fully automate subreddits eventually. enough witht he pesky human ones that soured them in the past.

        • Yeah I can definitely tell. I’ve gotten so many messages from people about why things have been removed. I have no idea all I can see is “removed by reddit.” I don’t even know what your posted.

    • Go for PyLova instead please (the fork of PieFed without a diva dev that implements hidden blocklists and gets pissy if he gets found out).