- 10 days
I can’t believe Americans (all institutions, and half of voters) are fine with this. This is fucked up.
- 10 days
As much as I want to go full Luigi unfortunately I have mouths to feed and they won’t make it without me
- 10 days
Sadly, that’s like 99% of us not in the Epstein class. Where are all those real crazies, the organized psychos, when an actual evil pedophile elite is right there?
- 10 days
Exactly. We finally have a tyrannical corrupt government that is headed by a pedophile Russian asset and the 2A crowd is silent or supports it. Think the left should arm up and we should have that revolution the teaparty morons want so bad - but instead of some action movie shit it would just being walking down the street and shooting your pedophile supporting neighbor.
- 10 days
And what are you doing about it? What do you think they can do that you can’t?
- 10 days
Every eligible voter who decided that not voting was better than voting for Harris has blood on their hands too.
- 10 days
We’ve been through this. It was centrist pushing genocide that lost the election. You keep putting out this fascist trope.
- 10 days
By calling liberals fascist you’re doing the real fascists a favor by normalizing it.
- 10 days
The only things you’ll be remembered for will be defending a genocide to such an extent you were willing to sacrifice an election for it.
- 10 days
Better than tanking a smart woman of color’s chance to make the world a better place because I fell for some right-wing/russian/tankie propaganda.
- 10 days
Only to those with their heads so far up their asses that they’re staring at their own tonsils.
- TheJesusaurus@piefed.caEnglish10 days
She was a fucking cop who supported Israeli genocide. She literally would have been better than trump, for sure. Don’t get me wrong. But what the fuck man. You’re gonna blame people who couldn’t vote for genocide cop for the fact that pedo realtor is president?
- 9 days
Absolutely, funny how you remove genocide from Trump’s title he’s been rather enthusiastic about it.
And sure you can call a district attorney a cop if you want to, but what do you call the man that’s set up his own secret police force to brutalize the populace?
- 9 days
Yeah anyone who doesn’t bow down to your particular version of reality is a genocidal pedophile rapist transphobe. We’ve heard it before, you’re just MAGA in a rainbow colored keffiyeh, it’s not about politics, it’s about you, your narcissism, and a pathological need to project moral superiority. You’re just as much of a threat to democracy as MAGA is, it’s the same mechanism, it’s the same fundamental fascism, you just happened to hop on another bus.
- 10 days
If you find reality unhinged, perhaps it’s you that needs hinging.
- QueenHawlSera@piefed.socialEnglish10 days
If Trump and Harris were threatening the same genocide, but Trump had more targets than just Palestine, wouldn’t Harris be the harm reduction choice?
- 10 days
Its fucking irrelevant because Biden and Harris DID sponsor a genocide. Voters don’t fucking vote based on what you decide harm reduction to be. They see two pieces of shit doing a genocide and they say “No.”, which is what they did. The concept of “harm reduction” is fucking astrology for lincoln republicans. Voters don’t fucking vote that way, if you even accept that Harris was “harm reduction” (She was literally in the seat of power and did nothing, so miss me that Harris or Biden were “harm reduction”).
Harm reduction is fucking irrelevant because its not how voters vote. They saw one genocide supporting candidate, rejected them, and the party establishment handed them a second one. That strategy, which depended a, frankly, white supremacist vision of “harm reduction”, lost the fucking election.
So no. The only option was to get the candidate to change their position. There was no other path.
- baines@lemmy.cafeEnglish10 days
after everything Trump has done, you’re still holding on to this? lmao bro
go into Palestine and tell them harm reduction would have been worse and you helped vote trump in
- 10 days
Yeah cus we never needed to lose to them. Losing to them was a fucking choice by people who were I bothered by a genocide.
- baines@lemmy.cafeEnglish9 days
wake up to the reality we have
you don’t have to like it
struggle all you want to try to make it better
but don’t fucking lie to yoursels
- 10 days
That right-wing/russian/tankie propaganda really did a number to leftist’s critical thinking skills and turned you into single issue (non)voters.
It’s sad to see.
- 10 days
No it’s understanding the very basic mechanics of how elections work, something you can count on those who will reliably caucus with fascists to perpetually misunderstand because white supremacist requires them to not understand.
- 10 days
When leftists fail to have a single viable candidate again and the choices are between Tucker Carlson and Gavin Newsom you guys are going to scream both sides are the same again and throw the election to Tucker.
Who was President and vice President, and politically immovable while Israel was flattening Gaza with 2000lb bombs?
Like, I’m going to say this, you won’t understand it, but it is true, and someday you might. So this is for your future self:
You live in a fiction of your own creation. The version of reality you inhabit is a fantasy.
- 9 days
Yes we have been through this and what you said was horse shit, still is.
The more dumb things Trump does the dumber this argument becomes.
Uh no. But just please stay out of elections or politics so we don’t lose again. Just take the back seat and let those of us who are capable of winning elections lead. We’ll carry you, in-spite of your insistence that you damage everyone through your behavior.
- 9 days
Uh no. But just please stay out of elections or politics so we don’t lose again. Just take the back seat and let those of us who are capable of winning elections lead. We’ll carry you, in-spite of your insistence that you damage everyone through your behavior.
You aren’t capable of doing the math on a 2 party, 1st past the post election but you’re “capable of winning elections” and you’re gonna “carry” folks? Get the fuck out of here with that delusional bullshit.
You aren’t capable of doing the math on a 2 party,
This is why I keep whipping out the perjoratives. There are single celled creatures showing more reading comprehension then this cult. You lost the fucking election relying on a false assumption of voter behavior and all you are doing is enforcing the demonstrated observation that you dont get how elections work.
You donʻt understand how elections work. Just shut the fuck up and stay the fuck out. This shit is too complicated for you.
- 9 days
I didn’t lose shit. I’m not a rah-rah DNC supporter and I didn’t have shit to do with all the brain dead decisions by the DNC that helped get us to this point. You don’t know me and you can fuck right off with that noise.
Once we have a choice between center right, status quo candidate and far right, authoritarian, racist, rapist, felonious, pedophile, the choice is clear to anyone who isn’t a toddler throwing a tantrum. I hate that the DNC refused to take a moral stand against Palestinean genocide but I’d bet everything I own that there would be more Palestineans alive today under President Harris. Do you think we are better off now that one of our few unequivically anti genocide representatives is being threatend with deportation?
The world is a terrible messy moral minefield and the US political system is absolute shit but reasonable, responsible adults accept reality and try to navigate towards the best possible outcomes. Stop acting like a sullen child. I hope you don’t live in a swing state.
Yes. People actually involved in politics understand these things. Recognize your betters.
- 10 days
Leftists need to spend some time studying reality along with their theory.
- 9 days
The left has been usurped by adolescent culture warriors who don’t give a shit about anything except being outraged about their flavor of the month identities not being taken seriously. It’s vile, it doesn’t belong to us, they just latched on and now we can’t get rid of them. If I was conspiratorial I’d say it’s a psyop because they’ve done nothing but harm to the real left, to the workers, to the proletariat, to actual humanitarian change, it’s all performative purity testing bullshit.
It’s like a little club they made for themselves, more like being part of a band fanclub or console fanboys than having anything to do with actual politics and creating an equitable society for all. It’s fucking ridiculous.
- 10 days
Non-voters lack deductive reasoning. They fail to understand that if Harris doesn’t win, Trump wins. They can’t grasp that eliminating one option leaves only the alternative.
Perhaps if they banded together, they could get support for a third candidate. It would be difficult but I suppose trying would have been better than refusing to vote against fascism.
They don’t like the rules of the game, so they refused to play
- 10 days
80 million sick fucks as well as all the people registered to vote that refuse to all because they think that women shouldn’t be leaders… in addition to all the filthy scum who think that compromise is treason when in reality aiding nazi filth is treason. whether that aid is refusing to vote, voting for republikkkans, or wasting votes on independents who can’t even make a name let alone getting votes… it’s all aiding nazi filth.
- 10 days
It shows how important christianity is to 2/3 of America— as in not at all. It’s why I can never take christian values seriously again because it’s obviously just another club with personal benefits for the people who join. Living the teachings of Christ is completely voluntary.
- 10 days
living the values and teachings of old white men claiming they heard god speak and who want women and children to be sex slaves is not religion. is a control mechanism that has raped and butchered people for 2000 years, while convincing delusional nutjobs who can only act right under the threat of damnation, that they are good people.
There is no hate quite like Christian love.
- 9 days
second worst… I think they hate transgender women more than they hate brown people (they basically ignore the existence of transgender men except in passing).
- 10 days
We’re Americans. We own guns.
The problem is there are no meaningful citizen’s militias that aren’t themselves Nazis.
The left allowed itself to be disarmed for the purpose of purity signaling and the result is a gross lack of tribal knowledge with regards to engaging in protracted violence.
- 10 days
aw shit i guess i don’t exist anymore because someone on lemmy thinks all american leftists are just liberals so they can get more updoots by performatively conflating a leftist demographic with leftist politicians currently in government in response to someone who doesn’t know the difference between a leftist and a liberal.
- 10 days
The horror of realizing this many people are ok with it is really hard to deal with. I never want to be around other people again.
- 10 days
Shit like this is why I’m afraid to try dating. There are so many rapists, abusers, and potential murderers out there
- 10 days
Finding a good one is like winning the lottery. :( I hope you find your person eventually.
- 10 days
don’t date outside of your circles of interest. good chance you’d land on someone like you, if you like the same things.
- 10 days
Exactly, he bragged about assaulting women and they said that’s for them!
- protist@retrofed.comEnglish10 days
Trump’s approval rating is 18 points underwater, which is his lowest ever and like 16 points below where Bush was after Hurricane Katrina. He has fallen fast. Will be interesting to see whether our institutions can start to right themselves with Trump’s political power so diminished
- 10 days
Well it’s a tabloid writing about a ‘chilling accusation!’ about something 30 years ago
What would you do?
- curbstickle@anarchist.nexusEnglish10 days
@guycls@lemmy.world I’ve got this, one sec.
for starters, not vote for parties led by rapist pedophiles
Pretty sure that covers things.
- 10 days
That reminds me of the crowd in /r/thedonald where they were all getting riled up they were going to round up all the pedos immediately if they won
- curbstickle@anarchist.nexusEnglish10 days
Ah, yes, /r/thedonald. Clearly the subreddit that would most accurately represent the fediverse.
- 10 days
Is there a mountain of photographic evidence of them hanging out with notorious child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and calling them quote best friend" quote in multiple handwritten letters with crude silhouettes of children’s naked bodies?
- protist@retrofed.comEnglish10 days
What are you even trying to say? Democratic candidates are routinely sidelined by accusations of sexual impropriety.
- 10 days
Are you under the impression this is the sole piece of evidence that Trump is a nonce?
10 daysHalf of voters are not fine with this.
Most think the same as you. Trump’s campaign promises were no war and releasing the Epstein files after Biden did absolutely nothing and sat on them for four years.
We’ve been betrayed by bOtH pArTiEs over the last eight years (and before that, for that matter)… because they’re BoTh all over the Epstein files.
We don’t have a “No Epstein” party in the USA, that is not allowed. We just have two corrupt shit parties.
(I’m not making random claims, either. We do have some information, like flight logs. Democrats and Republicans found common ground somehow and fucking loved that plane and the young girls on it).
Hey I just wanted to say that people like you are the reason that fat orange fuck is killing millions of children, go fuck yourself the parties are nothing alike.
- Carl@anarchist.nexusEnglish10 days
Exactly this. It’s amazing how we start seeing the “both parties” rhetoric right around election seasons. But then they vanish afterwards, when they help get the vile fucks elected. It’s honestly astounding how people see clear evidence of the orange slimeball hurting children, and go “oh but the other side is just better at hiding it, so I might as well keep voting for the orange slimeball instead.” It’s the most asinine, cretinous, sophomoric line of reasoning imaginable.
- gwheel@lemmy.zipEnglish10 days
Biden didn’t release them because there was an ongoing investigation keeping them sealed. Trump ended the investigation as part of his coverup. Good job preempting the fUnNy tExT though.
Honestly, probably a non zero amount, but I can assure you that the dem voters would actually care if it came out.
The Weiner scandal was actually a scandal and he served time. I’m not willing to go to bat for dem politicians (though I’d pick a random D over a random R politician any day), but I’ll definitely back dem voters on the whole for actually having some degree of standards or morals, which does generally lead to accountability.
I think that’s the main difference, because even if Rs and I disagreed, if they actually had morals we would not have found ourselves here. A bunch of Rs referred to Trump as a Hitler-like fascist and then bent the knee because the R voters didn’t care. It’s not that our politicians are somehow morally superior, though on the whole they definitely are, it’s that the actual base cares about the things they say they care about.
- 10 days
“The Defendant, Donald J. Trump, was clearly heard referring to Defendant, Jeffrey E. Epstein, as a ‘Jew B----rd’ as he yelled at Defendant Epstein, that clearly, he, Defendant Trump, should be the lucky one to ‘pop the cherry’ of Plaintiff Johnson.”
That’s the headline. I mean, that’s what it should be.
- 10 days
I remove the background and saved it here. Pedobear Trump has escaped again.
Thanks to the high contrast of the subject it wasn’t too tough to knock the background out. Do with it what you will.
- 10 days
Fucking sick. Millions of people voted for this sick fuck and they are probably voting for him again right now knowing he did this
- 10 days
they are probably voting for him again right now
He’s not up for re-election and not on the ballot. Only a subset of Congress is. A Democratic majority in Congress would not mean we get a new president, nor does it make it possible to impeach and remove the current one. Also, neither snap elections nor no-confidence votes are a thing here.
It seems a lot of non-US people watching from a distance have higher hopes than they should about the significance of this midterm election, due to not really understanding how the US system works and/or thinking it’s a parlimentary system like a normal modern democracy.
Which is why the European / Canadian “OMG dO sOmEtHiNg you pussies!!! No…? Guess you’re all fine with fascism then…!” commenters are especially irritating because there’s really only one way he doesn’t stay in office until Jan 2029, and that’s already been tried unsuccessfully, and just gets you president Vance anyway. Or president Johnson, if you managed a two-for one. A different president before 2029 is not a possible outcome of protesting- any amount of protesting. Those “No Kings” events are just cargo-cult civil disobedience for liberal boomers to virtue signal at. They have no demands to make, no credible threat of escalation if the demands are ignored, and no reason for the regime to take them seriously.
- 10 days
Voting republican in this election is voting for Trump in spirit, it is showing continued support. Everyone knows this is what people mean when they talk about voting for or against Trump in this election. The only exception I would allow is if they’re voting for a really good local republican candidate who isn’t aligned with Trump
- 10 days
It’s not in spirit voting Republican is voting for Trump is voting for pedophiles is voting for corruption.
Never let Republicans lose the stench of orange pedo
- 10 days
I agree with most of your points except that a large enough display of civil disobedience should instigate change. If people are willing to literally block the streets, strike and shut down the economy in enough major cities, changes will be made. The Short list of demands should be made clear and begin with impeach, arrest, and prosecute pedophile Trump.
- Soggy@lemmy.worldEnglish10 days
The “large enough display of civil disobedience” would just be outright civil war. We already know that Republican voters are happy to accept the razing of “Liberal hellholes” (every major city in the country) based on the messaging around Seattle and Portland in 2020.
Technically speaking if enough seats in Congress flipped to Democrats they could push an impeachment and prosecution through but that still hinges on the Executive and Judicial branches cooperating, and then there’s the military to consider. What we really need is a bunch of agricultural states to change so we can make some Constitutional Amendments but they’ve all been gerrymandered to fuck so that’s not a realistic goal either.
- 10 days
I swear this exact story from this exact victim has been out for years. Down to the refusing to wear a condom and trowing money to “get a fucking abortion”
Obviously we should continue to repeat it but what changed since then? Why is the news only reporting on it now?
This is not a bomshell but a gaping crator of a bombshell that fell years ago.
- 10 days
For one the Democrats are supporting it, whereas before they were content to let “Justice” shoulder the questions and so on. So thats different.
Some may remember “Katie Johnson” brought these up prior to the 2016 election but was threatened with all manner of reprisals including rape and murder, of herself and family, likely by Michael Cohen and Roger Stone amongst a sea of Pepe incels. And so she ghosted her lawyer’s press conference and “disappeared”.
It’s notable these are DoJ interviews, not random tweets or something. Official people officially noted these allegations from a real person multiple times.
- 10 days
It’s an October Unsurprise serving as a timely October Reminder that the Donvict should be in prison and not applying gold decorating to the Oval Office.
I think it should be a steady drip-drip-drip of some story about Epstein and donnie. About one high-profile one per day should be headline news.
Even if they are recycled stories. I don’t care. This has not gotten nearly enough traction.
So far, besides Epstein, the only person that went to prison for this is Maxwell.
- 10 days
It’s like using “obviously” fake info to scam people, by only attracting those that would fall for something. The right does this constantly, all the time, across every media, and it works.
It’s not for critically thinking and informed. It’s not for those already convinced by evidence and reason.
It’s to get reactionary types fired up enough to do something, like vote. The difference is, this sort of thing only seems to turn off the “enlightened centrist” who doesn’t understand the need to… Win.
- im_fine_sandy@nord.pubEnglish10 days
In this bizarre reality where stories like this fall flat, I guess you can just run the story again right before an election to motivate a few voters.
- ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.worldEnglish10 days
Remember that Congress has been illegally blocked from accessing the unredacted files, but has had some limited access to what is behind the redactions. For those of us reading the report, there are many places where previously reported incidents are being fleshed out with the limited unredactions Congress has been able to get, as well as noting which redactions illegally stay exactly the way they are despite repeated efforts to lift them.
For example, the media has focused on the rape of Katie Johnson, the subject of this article. The assault was known. But look at pages 24 - 25 of the report, especially page 25.
When Katie Johnson first reported the assaults to the FBI in 2016 – the reports of which were hidden for years and are still redacted even to Congress – the FBI ran an internal check on both names at that time and found a case number from Epstein’s 2007 federal investigation that involved both Trump and Epstein.
In other words, Trump and Epstein have been linked to each other by the FBI in the context of child rape for almost twenty years.
As far as I can tell, this was never followed up, and the report makes clear that this is one of the many cases where Congress has the clear legal right, not just by office but via direct legislation, to access the unredacted files and yet has been repeatedly refused by Trump’s DoJ, currently headed by Trump’s personal attorney turned AG, Todd Blanche.
I strongly recommend reading the report for anyone who is interested in Donald Trump and the Epstein files. It is anything but a “nothing to see here, move along” set of pages.
The two aren’t mutually exclusive. They didn’t argue over who would rape the child. They argued over who would rape the child first.
- ChunkMcHorkle@lemmy.worldEnglish10 days
Exactly. The report says they both did. See page 24:
In April 2016, a woman identified by the pseudonym “Katie Johnson” filed a lawsuit accusing Donald Trump of raping and sexually abusing her on multiple occasions in 1994, when she was 13, at a Jeffrey Epstein party in New York. … She also reported that Epstein and Trump argued over who would take her virginity, and Epstein became angry and violently raped her when he learned that Donald Trump had done so.
- 10 days
I don’t disagree but it’s also worth saying that this has been out in the open for a while and completely but unconvincingly swept under the rug
Yes. This is the answer.
There should be one major Epstein story linking donnie to Epstein every day.
- 10 days
But the incident mentioned in the title happened years ago - they were on trial together for it back in 2007 (where Epstein negotiated a non-prosecution agreement for himself and all co-conspirators on the basis that he was a secret service asset). I first read about this during the first Trump presidency, just after Epstein got arrested for the last time.
- 10 days
I was using the word “story” to mean the concept of recounting an event that happened, not as in “news story” or a specific publication. I meant that the “howling in envy” thing has been circulating online for years. I’m glad they’re publicizing it this close to the election, but it’s not at all new information.
- 10 days
There are people that still don’t know he’s in the Epstein files. Their eco chambers are iron clad. If this sends even a fraction into a rabbit hole, it’s worth it.
- 10 days
Fr. This was found months ago by sleuths. What an awful world we live in that it’s now news.
- 10 days
I mean, it should have stayed in the news the first time until it was followed by the story of how his child molesting ass was removed from office and dealt with. But know the media just skipped right along to the next bullshit that should have resulted in the same thing but didn’t. Just endlessly cycling through horrible shit.
- 10 days
STUPID Libtards! 13 year olds ARENT Children!
-LITERALLY the People calling Transgenders PEDOPHILES!
- 10 days
Literarily a fox news lady saying ladies 13 years old are not children like a 9 year old so the rapist aren’t pedophiles.
- 10 days
For years MAGA’s were talking about how they were “ alpha males “ and “ real Americans “ , now when they have a chance to show an ounce of courage they demonstrate that they cowards and supplicate themselves to trump.
Remember when a lot of them were duped into protesting and harassing drag queens because focks nooz and other right-wing propaganda outlets claimed those were groomers.
I wonder what’s going through their heads these days now finding their wannabe god emperor had been a legitimate documented pedo this whole time
- 10 days
I saw a video today of some Trump Ladies with their Trump signs, and when asked about Trump being on the Epstein Files, they got super hostile, and said it was all lies. Their ability to ignore obvious facts is amazing.
- 10 days
Never leave a child alone with a conservative. Never.
It is not possible for a conservative to see a child as human. Conservatives see children only as property. This is why child sex abuse suspects are typically conservatives.
Conservatives are biologically unable to experience empathy for others. This is why their relationships are so shallow and why they cannot view their family as anything more than property. Without empathy, it’s impossible to develop a deep emotional connection with another human they way a normal person can. A conservative loves their child the way a teenager loves a sportscar. The emotions of ownership can be strong, but they are not deep.
- 10 days
There were quite a few democrats and liberals who visited Epstein island. Pedophilia is not political.
- 10 days
Which is why they were careful with their words. By specifying “conservatives” - not merely “Republicans” - their description encompasses all conservatives, regardless of party affiliation. A huge number of Democrats are conservative.
- 10 days
Throw rhwm all in jail. Criminals should not get free passes bc people look up to them or their leadership
- 10 days
I think you are accidentally supporting my position. Conservative liberals and conservative Democrats are known to be named, but I’m not aware of any progressives named in the Epstein Files.
“Progressive” is the opposite of conservative, not liberal or Democrat.
- 10 days
Task failed successfully, I can think of plenty of reasons to not let your kids around conservatives.
- 10 days
But Democrats aren’t circling the wagons to defend Democrat Pedophiles, while MAGAs are vigorously defending theirs.
- 10 days
I don’t equate conservative with Maga. Maga is a different beast altogether and the appropriate term in this case.
- 10 days
Sometimes I struggle with how strident you can be, but I never find I disagree enough for it to be worth arguing.
- 10 days
You’re right, but there’re a lot of conservative Democrats as well…
- 10 days
But Democrats aren’t circling the wagons to defend Democrat Pedophiles, while MAGAs are vigorously defending theirs.
- 10 days
Conservative Democrats are named in the Epstein Files. I don’t see any progressives, though.
Progressive is the opposite of conservative, not “Democrat” or “Green Party” or any other party affiliation.
- 10 days
Wait, I thought the democrats were pedophiles in a pizza shop or something
- 10 days
Turns out it’s the Trumpublicans in a goldish-plated Cheesecake Factory.
- 10 days
Projection from Republicans about being pedophiles. Seems like republicans are all pedophiles and closeted gay dudes.
- 10 days
Too many people were on to the truth, pizzagate was the narrative force fed to them to make them all look ridiculous.
Well, I’d wager that people prone to thinking it was going to be the Democrats like Obama and Podesta and Clinton and believing nonsense about adrenochrome were looking quite ridiculous already before being pushed onto the Qanon thing.
They are, check out available flight logs that were released some years ago, Democrats (and Republicans) were Lolita Express frequent flyers.
- 10 days
In 1995 an episode of a show named Space Precinct aired with a Donald Trump fill-in character who runs for office, divides the public, has connections to organized crime, and takes advantage of the very very young.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tpF4wdsz_o&list=PL0NXq1NHbJMIPTWGysQqjZwdtxU8iilbw&index=12
Perhaps it’s just a coincidence, but it doesn’t read that way if you watch the episode today.
- 10 days
Explosive report? The Katie Johnson allegations have been out there for YEARS. It’s about time someone actually focused on them.
