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  • We can’t do everything ourselves.

    No, the whole idea is that we don’t do ANYTHING ourselves. In the proposed futurist model of ubermensch via technology, technology would fix technology.

    So we’d have self-replicating 3D technology-printers, that would self repair.

    Normally I wouldn’t say that kind of thing, but this time it’s what I meant as the theological aims of a more tech, less social “society”. It’s the argument I was laying out.

    So it was more: with enough technology every man is a sentient super powerful magical island …with no friends, no community, and no identity beyond existentialism.

    Also, this isn’t sci fi, I’m just following what’s happened so far and saying a particular aspect of the trend. Repirmen used to be more common, less advanced technology was more social. Now we already have plenty of self-diagnosing systems. Printers that tell you what’s wrong with them, computers that can self repair, machines that are more durable and hence require less and less maintenance (and ergo, less repairmen to talk to, so less social).

  • Okay, but we know the far right is in power in places…

    So can you tell me where the far left are in power and:

    and then the far left gains popularity saying “WE’RE GONNA DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY TO THEM” and then the main issues hang around.

    Obviously giving the info on what the far left said they were going to do and that the problem is persistenting after they got into power, would be required.

    Is that the main problem anywhere you can point to?

    It just seems like a weird response, when the main concern of the post is right wing parties coming to prevalance. There are times when it’s NOT “both sides” are extreme, and instead it’s only one side posing the risk.

  • Do you count being anti-israel as being antisemitic?

    Outside of that conflation, I just haven’t seen that much of it from the left, not in an age where we litterally have Nazi parties marching and trying to reform globally.

    So I think PERSPECTIVE and SCALE are required for judging “right vs left” or “both sides” style arguments. There’s way more right wing nazi stuff than “leftwing antisemitism”.

  • It’s a weird ad for drive-in theaters huh?

    Each epoch of technology democratizes elements of society whilst also making those elements less social, less community oriented.

    Stage plays were a thing, then eventually cinema and drive-ins, then TV, and now watching shows on our personal computers and devices.

    Each time there’s be less chances of interaction with other people in order to get the supposed “reward” of service delivery.

    This goes not just for media and cinema, but for ALL technology:

    Camp fires -> shared candle/gas lamp -> electric lighting.

    Just for street lights in the age of lamp oil you had not only all the industry to supply wicks and oil, but also every day jobs like lamplighters (lighting the street lamps) and Link-boys. (Paid to follow you with a lamp on streets without gas lighting).

    The desire we’re heading towards seems to be singular isolated technological ubermensch completely isolated travelling the galaxy with all the technological capabilities of a society, but no longer needing anyone from society. The blessings of technological convenience as our only curse.

  • I don’t think that’s the case, I think over the past several years a series of media figures have promoted right wing explanations of the world, almost all of which have relied on finding the most extreme examples of the worst people on the left, taking them out of context, and distributing them en mass in an organized fashion.

    This process started with the “Russian troll farm” influence story in 2014, and was a huge part of the popularising of the alt-right. People like Steve Bannon, Peter Thiel, and Elon Musk also started running influence campaigns.

    So we have these vestigial bad ideas and examples the vitriol of the left, like “big red”, or this artist, or the screeching leftist, or this person.

    These are then (as with that last example) combined with rightwing messages, or explanations about the left, citing the worst of them, to make memes and political propaganda.

    Along with this comes things like horse shoe theory, the fourth turning theory (weak men create bad times ect), and things like “Post-modern Cultural Marxism caused all the problems”.

    This sort of popularization of bad ideas and misdirected grievances doesn’t have to go on very long before society is left with a bunch of bad ideas, like feminism is hate speech against men (not saying this is your particular claim), or that poverty is caused by recent immigration rather than long term regulatory choices.

    Long story short, due to the left having more reasonable explanations and models, in context and statistically there’s far worse going on in the extreme “horse shoe” ends of the right, than in the left.

    I guarantee you can find kidnap plans and migrant bashings by right wingers far more quickly and abundantly than you could anything like that on the left. It’s drastically one sided.

    Left wing rage is probably stronger, but it also tends to be better placed and more accurate.

  • Hate speach relates to hate crimes, which are a category of crime punching down on minorities specifically.

    So do you want to show me the examples of left wing people spouting hate speech?

    Show me what makes them not rightwing, in the same era as they were spouting the hate speech against minorities. Give some examples if you want me to see your point as true and correct.

  • You’re literally linking to a graph that ONLY measures the wages of fully employed people in the US. It doesn’t measure the under employed, part time employees, or contract/gig workers - at a time when all those categories all became more prevalent…

    …and it certainly doesn’t measure changes in wealth share globally. So way to cherry pick.

  • Wealth disparity and disenfranchisement blamed on immigrants.

    Some of it is to blame on COVID, as money went to businesses rather than people - so wealth disparity jumped. Compare this to the 1919 Spanish Flu, during which welfare became more prevalent and well funded (due to strikes and collective social actions), resulting in wealth disparity shrinking.

    Basically this time we went in the other direction. So now we have extra anxieties about unemployment, extra inflation, extra cost of living pressures, extra housing insecurity, and a sense we’re not being listened to.

    Things far right groups like to blame on immigrants via grievance politics, these insecurities are then used to recruit people.

    P.S people elsewhere are acting like right wing media is the sole cause and hasn’t always been dogshit. This is incorrect. It’s more potent now because more people have more legitimate grievance that can be appealed to