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- 11 days
That’s a method of preparing. It means make an espresso shot and add water. Which is different than “normal” coffee where you pour all the hot water through the grounds at once.
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Yea, I’m not surprised, quite a lot of things have different names across Spanish speaking countries.
Nah, most places it’s called “café negro”, and it’s fine. “Negro” refers to the color, and there’s nothing intrinsically racist about that word.
If tomorrow some nazi fash starts using the word “goal” as some slur, would it be then incorrect to say “I have goals” or “omg, we’re goals” (“we’re goals” as “we’re matching”)? If we concede them every word they co-opt, then they’ll colonialize all language. Just as with the word queer, we should be the ones reclaiming it for ourselves.
- 11 days
… Why would you say that(referring to the title). Just makes people use derogatory language in their head for the lulz.
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No. But implying it is bad to say it clearly does refer to calling black people n*s. At least in competent english speakers.
…no shit. It’s a joke about being hyper aware of offensive language just like you are now.
They use the n-word for the black color in Spanish… Feels weird to say it ngl
- 11 days
its just a Spanish word. negro is not the n word. negro in English is a slur and still isnt the n word
11 daysI didn’t realize it was now considered derogatory rather than just old-fashioned.
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They… don’t though.
“Black” in Spanish is “negro/negra”, said with an “e” like in “pet”.
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… No, they don’t. It’s pretty ignorant and kinda racist in itself to even make that assumption
- [deleted]@piefed.worldEnglish11 days
Hard disagree. Languages differ and can be unintentionally offensive if people lack context and that is kinda funny. It plays on the joke in the comic of the person ordering really overthinking things instead of being aware that context makes ordering a black coffee a neutral thing.
The title builds on the joke and is pretty funny. Negro as used in Spanish isn’t offensive or derogatory outside of specific usage just like black.
Do you mean because that’s you ordering in the comic? Because apparently that’s you ordering in the comic.
- Saapas@piefed.zipEnglish11 days
Holy shit, that person thought of a racist word in their head! Get 'em!
- FrChazzz@lemmus.orgEnglish10 days
Was in an anti-racist training event for work and the man running the meeting told us a story about this time his white friend’s son referred to him as “Black” and the white dad gets all embarrassed. He scolds his son and then apologizes to his friend. Dude just goes, “it’s okay. I know I’m Black. There’s no need to try and hide it.”
Black isn’t a bad word lol, but last I saw a mercworks comic was the mid 2010s so ¯\(ツ)/¯
- 10 days
Ew no, if I order a black coffee, I’d want my coffee blacker than most black people. Most black people are still brown if we have to talk about literal skin color.
Once met a dude from Brazil who was the same shade of black as basic electronic stuff. Dude was fucking dark.
- 10 days
“I want a South Sudan, and by friend here would like a Brazillian blend.”
- Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.worldEnglish10 days
Race is very nuanced - it’s not bla- er, a very dark color and a much lighter color.
“Make my coffee look like an egg bagle, and make it taste like you dipped a glazed donut into it, but without actually doing that, I don’t want chunky coffee”
That’s how I used to order my coffee from the donut place at 3 am before my 4 am airport shift. I was young, i’ve grown, but they always got it basically right. I make my own now, much much darker with less sugar. With just as much questionable content. Because I have ONE good coffee and top it off until it sucks and I don’t want more.
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I think it’s much more racist to claim someone who has nothing to do with Africa or its politics (although that’s misleading, given how many countries there are in Africa and how politics differ throughout) is African American just based on skin color.
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? They are literally in the American continent, so that’s the part that actually checks out. Unless you mean that there are also multiple countries in America, meaning it’s somewhat insulting for the US to appropriate what “being American” means. I didn’t comment about it because the relation is much closer than a continent with an ocean away and with a legacy centuries apart.
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Your comment: “I think it’s much more racist to claim someone who has nothing to do with Africa or its politics… is African American just based on skin color.”
Which is perfectly valid btw. African American is an ethnic category, not a skin color. Which is why using that category as a way to describe skin color is inherently racist. Assuming someone is American, based on skin color, is every bit as absurd as assuming they are African.
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I literally was just referring to the use of the term African American, Einstein, not your strawman. Reading comprehension, huh. Do I need to specify the obvious context so that you geniuses don’t run with it off with your strawmans now?
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Not sure if you’re replying to someone else or just didn’t understand what I wrote.
Edit to respond to your edit: I would guess that your assumed context is black people in the USA, since that’s where the term “African American” is used most commonly. To describe a black person as “African American” assumes two things, neither of which is necessarily true. You wouldn’t describe a white person as “White American” if you didn’t know they were American. Being in the USA doesn’t imply you are American. People travel sometimes, and to assume otherwise when a person is black is of course racist.
The absurdity is more obvious when people use the term in a broader context. I tried to find a video I saw a while ago but alas it seems to have been scrubbed from the internet, of an athlete, Kriss Akabusi perhaps, being interviewed after a race and the interviewer was asking him about being an African American athlete. Akabusi pointed out that he was black and british, but the interviewer kept trying to correct him, referring to him as “British African American” at one point. Sorry I can’t find it, it was really quite funny.
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If you just never look at anyone you interact with, you never feel this awkward for your words because they don’t even register! Autism for the win!
- 11 days
Treating people differently specifically because of their race, whatever action that is, is racism. Just talk to them. They’re an individual first and foremost.
I know what you mean, but this is also essentially the same rhetoric that actual racists use to refute good policies like DEI. Diversity is a good thing, and I’m not sure you can achieve it by letting everyone self-police their behavior towards someone of a different race. Racism simply exists in our culture whether or not people are aware of it, so we need policies that counteract it.
Maybe a more persuasive way of saying the same thing: if you agree that some ethnicities or social demographics are historically disadvantaged and need more help than others, why would you not try to focus policy to prioritize their needs? It’s similar to making policy that reduces child suffering at the expense of some freedoms for adults.
That said, I also believe it’s good to try making policy that doesn’t explicitly target specific races if possible. For example, strengthening workers’ rights in general improves the lives of an entire economic class, and coincidentally it would disproportionately help Black and Mexican people (per capita).
- freagle@lemmy.mlEnglish11 days
Nope. You can’t define a term in reference to itself. There are no races except those that racism defines. You therefore cannot treat people differently based on their race without racism being present before the treatment. Therefore, treating people differently based on race cannot be the definition of racism.
Abstract racism, which doesn’t really exist except for in apologia, is a system by which we categorize humans into groups by phenotype.
But none of us have ever experienced abstract racism. We all know and have experience with one historical phenomenon called Racism, and that is European Racism. European Racism was developed by the European elite in order to divide humanity into categories that they could use to justify their domination and enlist the non-elite of their society in defending, supporting, and spreading the dominance of those elite.
That racism is the racism Europeans exported all over the world through violent dominance, subjugation, colonialism, and neocolonialism.
Once you understand that, it becomes obvious that we are require to treat people differently based on which racial category our society assigns to them, because the harm they experience from our society is informed by that racial categorization. If you don’t treat them differently at all, then you are failing to acknowledge the harm they have experienced and therefore cannot possibly approach justice.
It would be like a doctor saying we can’t give people different treatments based on the form of illness they have because that would be a form of unequal treatment.
- 11 days
I’m too tired for this shit at seven in the morning, just give me a black god damned coffee 😠
/j
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You wrote too many words to basically agree with they guy you are replying to
- 10 days
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/0BNRZCnU5eM
“Excuse me. Can I get a cup of coffee, black?”
“Can’t you see we talkin’, white‽”
