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Not The Onion@lemmy.worldbyArthur Besse@lemmy.ml
9 days

OpenAI CEO says it's 'quite terrible' for your PC to have RAM

www.tomshardware.com English

cross-posted from: https://hexbear.net/post/9918650

https://archive.ph/RGiv8

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    OpenAI CEO Sam Altman said in a podcast interview that "it's quite terrible" for people to have RAM in their own PCs when it could go into AI data centers.
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    • Stefen Auris@pawb.socialEnglish
      9 days

      At this point I think CEOs are just trying to rage bait us

        • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
          9 days

          The more we talk about AI the more he stays relevant, the longer he can prop up his stock price.

            • dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              9 days

              No it’s the money that keeps them relevant, not us talking about it.

                • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
                  9 days

                  To be clear I’m not demonizing us for talking about it, but that’s his tactic. He says something that keeps him in the news cycle, that keeps him in the minds of investors, which keeps his valuation up, and that’s the money. If he became irrelevant in the news that would mean his valuation was going down, and he’d be losing money - so yes I think him stirring the pot is to keep OpenAI relevant and talked about.

                  • Taleya@aussie.zoneEnglish
                    8 days

                    You would be shocked at how many people just buy stocks because they heard about Thing.

                    Also the stock market is completely made up.

                • 5oap10116@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  9 days

                  “Please revolt. Me and my billionaire friends would like to see how our AI powered MG42s fair against a swarm.”

                    • mkwt@lemmy.worldEnglish
                      9 days

                      That’s an interesting choice of firearm.

                        • ServantOfRa@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                          9 days

                          Seems on point

                          • 5oap10116@lemmy.worldEnglish
                            9 days

                            Its one of the spookiest MGs

                        • db2@lemmy.worldEnglish
                          9 days

                          No, they’re really that stupid. To the core.

                        • ElChinchilla@lemmy.worldEnglish
                          9 days

                          Owning shovels is bad says shovel renting company.

                            • JackFrostNCola@aussie.zoneEnglish
                              8 days

                              If by ‘shovel renting company’ you mean a company that rents shovels themselves - then yes.
                              Its crazy to me that these AI LLM companies are so overleveraged that they dont even own their own hardware

                            • kescusay@lemmy.worldEnglish
                              9 days

                              Personally, I think it’s quite terrible that Sam Altman isn’t currently experiencing testicular torsion.

                                • peopleproblems@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                  9 days

                                  Having gone through that myself as a teen,

                                  I agree.

                                  • galacticbackhoe@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                    9 days

                                    “Please Luigi me” said the man with the imminently punchable face.

                                  • Tigeroovy@lemmy.caEnglish
                                    9 days

                                    It’s quite terrible for Sam Altman to have a head, and yet.

                                    • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
                                      9 days

                                      He can rent ram from me if he thinks it’s so terrible, it’s the best option for those who need compute after all. I’ll rent a VM with 16GB of RAM to him for let’s say $1000 a month. Go ahead Sam, it’s the best utilization after all. For $5,000 a month you can have a part time “spot” instance with a GPU.

                                      Oh but I don’t work like Nvidia, Sam, you get the same terms we do with subscriptions. You miss one payment, one payment doesn’t clear, you’re cut off.

                                      That sounds about fair for how us consumers have been treated.

                                        • daannii@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                          9 days

                                          Missed payments should be a suspension with a fine, plus late fee, plus convenience fee, plus admin fee, plus intrest on the late payment, plus reinstatement fee.

                                          • Mike D@piefed.socialEnglish
                                            9 days

                                            I’ve got 32GB of RAM that sits mostly unused in my main PC. I’ve got another micro PC with 16GB (I think) that hasn’t been on for year. Laptop has only 8GB but that hasn’t been turned on for sic months.

                                            Hoping this makes Sam upset.

                                          • ShutUpWesley@piefed.zipEnglish
                                            9 days

                                            It’s quite terrible for AI CEOs to keep breathing

                                            • psvrh@lemmy.caEnglish
                                              9 days

                                                • otacon239@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                  9 days

                                                  That goes fucking hard. I might get that on a t-shirt.

                                                • OwOarchist@pawb.socialBannedEnglish
                                                  9 days

                                                  Yes. Terrible for him that I can do my own computing without having to rent it from him.

                                                  Next in breaking news: local mechanic thinks “it’s quite terrible” for people to repair their own cars at home.

                                                    • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                      9 days

                                                      Manufacturers unironically believe this.

                                                        • Folstar@lemmus.orgEnglish
                                                          9 days

                                                          Manufacturers don’t even really want mechanics fixing them. Yes, we put that part that we know breaks in a position that requires disassembling half the engine. We’ll say it’s a 1 hour job. Good luck getting paid grease monkeys- now everyone shut up and buy more cars.

                                                            • Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                              9 days

                                                              Definitely. If owners had to buy a new car every time it broke down, that would be nearly the manufacturers’ ideal situation. Personally I was as impressed as disgusted by the boldness of deploying features as a subscription. They still sold, so what do I know?

                                                            • SpaghettiMaster@feddit.ukEnglish
                                                              9 days

                                                              Some repair guys do too and I find it really annoying when they are secretive over things.

                                                              When I worked in a repair shop if a customer asked I would let them know exactly what I’m doing.

                                                          • theneverfox@pawb.socialEnglish
                                                            9 days

                                                            Sounds like Sammy sees what way the winds are blowing, and is scared

                                                            Models are getting a lot more efficient, and the billion dollar models are going to have to compete with something basically free to run

                                                              • BlaestEgnen@feddit.dkEnglish
                                                                9 days

                                                                Only a moron would think OpenAI was ever turning profitable.

                                                                There were two possible ways,

                                                                1. Subscription prices rose to a point no one would be interested to pay.

                                                                2. Inference got so cheap, that 98% of all use cases could be run by open weight models on local machines

                                                                In both situations OpenAi and Anthropic lost.

                                                                The bull case has been a bear case since the beginning. Both companies will most likely stay alive, but will eventually have their costs turned down as they’re going to be bought out by some of the mastodonts.

                                                                The best possible scenario for either of them, is if a government want a frontier lab and decides to buy one already functioning. Rather than having their universities start from scratch

                                                                  • theneverfox@pawb.socialEnglish
                                                                    9 days

                                                                    They die if we use local models.

                                                                    The second profit condition would be it got so cheap they could make bank on data collection

                                                                  • PattyMcB@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                    9 days

                                                                    Something that has a fixed up front cost to run*

                                                                    Otherwise, YES!

                                                                      • StabbingSky@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                                        9 days

                                                                        Depending on your rig there will still be recurring cost (electricity)

                                                                          • PattyMcB@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                            9 days

                                                                            Well, yeah… i was just pointing out that “free” wasn’t exactly accurate

                                                                              • StabbingSky@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                                                9 days

                                                                                I know, I was adding another thing that made it not free.

                                                                            • theneverfox@pawb.socialEnglish
                                                                              9 days

                                                                              Maybe, maybe not. Phones are getting more optimized for AI and have decent RAM, so the on device models may not be great at agentic problem solving, but they’ll probably meet most people’s AI needs

                                                                              Plus, any reasonable gaming computer or MacBook can run models… Maybe a bit slowly and maybe just the compressed 8gb models, but they can pretty much all do it to some degree

                                                                              So I think we’ll be in a place where there’s little or no upfront cost after a couple more key advancements

                                                                          • jaxxed@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                            9 days

                                                                            Thankfully, OpenAI will barely survive 2026, and will die n 2027. We shouldn’t have to hear too much more about him.

                                                                              • stoy@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                                                9 days

                                                                                I have previously posted about having a set of 20cl rum bottles, each bottle being dedicated to when I no longer have to live on the same planet as particular bastards that do their best to ruin everything they touch.

                                                                                I recently bought another set of 20cl rum bottles, and I am thinking of dedicating them to AI companies crashing and burning…

                                                                                But I am worried, they may not crash and burn, some other person will just buy them before they die completely…

                                                                                  • Mr_lobber_lobber@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                    9 days

                                                                                    Oh i like this idea…good excuse to get a decent whisky on stock:⁠-⁠)

                                                                                      • stoy@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                                                        9 days

                                                                                        This is my current setup:

                                                                                          • dltk@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                            9 days

                                                                                            I like it, however I’ve taken the opposite strategy and simply drink to cope with their existence in the present.

                                                                                            I don't have a problem

                                                                                            • LowtierComputer@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                              9 days

                                                                                              What is the Gran Anejo to?

                                                                                                • stoy@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                                                                  8 days

                                                                                                  Wait, sorry, I thought you ment the last bottle…

                                                                                                  The Gran Anejo is dedicated to Rupert Murdoch, one of the true media ghouls

                                                                                                    • LowtierComputer@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                                      8 days

                                                                                                      Ahh ok. Another good choice!

                                                                                          • finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                            9 days

                                                                                            Next he’ll be paying off politicians to make it legal for police to come to your door and seize your RAM for ‘national security’. There’ll be a huge right wing media campaign, funded by the taxpayer, under the heading ‘The War Against Home RAM’. People who own their own computers will be labelled ‘terrorists’.

                                                                                              • PattyMcB@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                                9 days

                                                                                                They can pry my RAM from my cold dead hands

                                                                                                  • finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                                    9 days

                                                                                                    Brought to you by the National RAM Association (NRA).

                                                                                                • j4yc33@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                                                  9 days

                                                                                                  I have a combined somewhere around 512GiB DRAM. I am glad to know it pisses Altmann Off.

                                                                                                  To answers the obvious: Homelab.

                                                                                                    • ExtremeDullard@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                                                      9 days

                                                                                                      I have a combined somewhere around 512GiB DRAM

                                                                                                      aka your savings for retirement.

                                                                                                        • SpaghettiMaster@feddit.ukEnglish
                                                                                                          9 days

                                                                                                          It will be worth its weight in gold or in steel, depends how the markets go.

                                                                                                        • 𝚝𝚛𝚔@aussie.zoneEnglish
                                                                                                          8 days

                                                                                                          I have 512GB of ECC in one server, 64GB of DDR5 in my desktop, and probably another couple of hundred GB or so of DDR4 from previous desktops in a box on my shelf.

                                                                                                          Starting to worry about a home invasion by one of the AI companies.

                                                                                                          • hardcoreufo@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                                            9 days

                                                                                                            I’ve got at least 256 in sticks lying around. Maybe another 128 or so in SBCs and laptops with soldered ram.

                                                                                                          • brax@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                                                                                            9 days

                                                                                                            Sam Altman should be hung upside down and forced to subsidize hardware prices for everybody to offset the damage he’s caused.

                                                                                                            • adarza@lemmy.caEnglish
                                                                                                              9 days

                                                                                                              i think it’s quite terrible that so much oxygen is wasted on these mf’ers.

                                                                                                              • Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
                                                                                                                9 days

                                                                                                                Big talk for someone who can’t get the funding for their insane spending anymore.

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