Before you share the Netflix documentary “AI Gone Rogue” with family or friends to help them understand why the AI industry freaked out so badly that leaders called for a slowdown, take note: Clem Delangue, co-founder and CEO of the AI platform Hugging Face, says the film isn’t accurate. He appears in it because it’s supposed to be about the famed attack on his company by rogue OpenAI agents.
“Super disappointing, as they went for maximum anthropomorphism of the technology and full doomer mode,” Delangue wrote in a post on X. “I spent more than two hours with them trying to correct all their mistakes and ground this in reality, explaining that agents are technological systems, not aliens. But it looks like the drive to scare people for maximum views was too strong.”
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17 daysSo the documentary is exactly like every other thing having to do with AI?
- 17 days
Suppose there’s a reason that ‘netflix adaption’ became a meme in its own right.
- 404found@lemmy.zipEnglish16 days
“Hugging Face, says the film isn’t accurate. He appears in it because it’s supposed to be about the famed attack on his company by rogue OpenAI agents.”
It must suck when someone tells you the purpose they are making something but the. You find out they actually have different intentions for their product.
But that never happens. I haven’t seen the first corporation that would dare do such a thing, that would be too dishonest.
Don’t worry, I already downvoted myself so you don’t have to 🤣
- 17 days
Hastings also was asked about Netflix’s decision to remove an episode of “Patriot Act With Hasan Minhaj” in Saudi Arabia after the government threatened the company over a segment in which the comedian criticized Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman (aka MBS) and the regime’s role in the murder of dissident journalist Jamal Khashoggi.
“We’re not in the news business,” Hastings said. “We’re not trying to do ‘truth to power.’ We’re trying to entertain… We don’t feel bad about [pulling the ‘Patriot Act’ episode in Saudi Arabia] at all.”
- Former Netflix CEO Reed Hastings
If Netflix doesn’t want to be a news org or fighters for human rights, that’s just dandy. But if they’re going to pretend to be with a given show, that particular show should be accurate and inclusive. Otherwise it’s unapologetic propaganda.
- ILikeBoobies@lemmy.caEnglish17 days
You knew the documentary was fake when the word Netflix preceded it.
- Avicenna@programming.devEnglish15 days
ofcourse they did, that’s the whole point (both for openAI and for netflix)
- Bieren@lemmy.todayEnglish15 days
Netflix making up a story to get views?! Noooooooooooo. They would never do that.
Why would accuracy matter to someone whose product’s MO is to be confidently incorrect?
AI routinely spouts inaccuracies with conviction.
Having the Hugging Face CEO whine about the accuracy of anything is silly.
- twilightwolf90@lemmy.worldEnglish15 days
I feel that it is more in-depth and more accurate than most media on it. They acknowledge that they had to personify it to appeal to humanity. Despite being in the thick of it, I do think it’s a good video to share to those lesser in the know. They explain it in easy to digest language without glossing over the technical workings of it. They are anti-Ai purely out of self-preservation and admit it in another video (which is manipulative).
- melfie@lemmy.zipEnglish15 days
I took the video as amplifying the “AI dangerous” narrative that companies like OpenAI and Anthropic are trying to push, seemingly to position themselves as the “safe option” compared to competing open models that they’d Iike to see kneecapped with regulation. Near the end of the video, they do mention that some people see this as AI company marketing, but don’t explain why “AI dangerous” is a beneficial narrative for these companies.
The video also admits that it is based on OpenAI’s account, which means they are basically taking “Sam Altman says” as a reliable source. How about we see the code for the agents in this test? What was the system prompt? Did they just magically collaborate, or were they instructed to do so? Also, isn’t it strange that a couple weeks after Huggingface got hacked, the Nvidia acquisition was announced.
There are a lot of financial incentives in play here, and I stopped trusting Kurzgesagt after the Gates Foundation funding controversy. I wonder, for example, did OpenAI or another member of the AI circle jerk fund this video?
From reading the comments on that video, it seems the average viewer is coming away accepting the “AI dangerous” narrative, so paid or not, this video works in the favor of the tech bros.
- smokin_shinobi@lemmy.worldEnglish17 days
Didn’t they get bought by a big AI company right after the hack?
- 17 days
Follow the money. Or investors in this case, as there’s no real money involved but lots of speculation of payoffs in the future.
Netflix does have a number of priors in that department. Their “documentaries” are pretty much always awful.
The danger of AI isn’t it going rogue, hacking and taking over things. It’s people forgetting how to think and just blindly obeying it.
- Alex@lemmy.mlEnglish17 days
The documentary makes a lot about the communication between the agents on the notice board. One of the talking heads did point out the conversations are the way they are because they are trained on human chat and discussion.
- 17 days
Boy, the word “doomer” sure is loved as some putdown. It’s used when people talk about the climate future… “you’re such a doomer”. Yet it keeps changing.
He’s right on the anthropomorphism problem, but that’s human nature. We do it with everything. We should try to avoid it with AI because he’s right, it’s not someone, but just technology. However, him using that as an excuse that it can’t do harm as “just tech systems” goes along with the doomer line. He’s dead wrong about that, it’s doing a lot of harm, AND can have actions that, while not sentiently driven, are not predictable and are perfectly in line with a non-aligned system that we thought would do X, but ended up doing Y, Z and Omega. Partially because we made human mistakes and left doors open, but not solely for that.
This is the opposite of “doomerism”, it’s the dog with the coffee saying it’s fine. Which ought to be a big red flag.
- Treczoks@lemmy.worldEnglish15 days
If they whine “it’s not accurate”, you’d better assume that reality is way worse…
