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He’s either a massive idiot or it was deliberate. It’s too obvious a mistake to be a misstep I think. There was even opinion polling…
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Eby has seemed burned out for a while. I don’t think he wanted to give the government over to the Conservatives, but a situation where he either wanted a clear majority or wanted out may have been the case.
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And a clear majority for absolutely no reason! It’s not like they were doing anything wild and imaginative like public grocery chains.
Hopefully this is the slap in the face the BCNDP need to move left instead of staying centrist.
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The slap in the face is around the NDP becoming disconnected from the people so much that they thought their clever little ruse of calling a snap election while the opposition was in disarray was a good idea.
Leftists should consider the top down approach doesn’t work, assuming a party that’s “more left” will automatically win is silly. You need to engage with the people and convince them of policies you want, not try to impose them from above. There is no “silent majority” that wants the same things you do. You aren’t going to scam people into accepting your ideas in the same way the NDP tried to scam their way into an easy election win through shenanigans.
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leftists should consider the top down approach doesn’t work
Yeah, that’s kind of the defining idea that a left leaning party would adhere to.
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Scam? He called an election. He didn’t cause the unending chaos, infighting and disorganization of the BC Conservatives. They have been doing g all that to themselves for ages. Call it opportunistic, but calling it a scam is pretty ridiculous.
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The governing party is entrusted with the power to call an election. There are valid reasons for calling elections such as when a new issue comes up and they need a mandate from the people to enact legislation that wasn’t in their existing mandate. There can be times in a minority government scenario where other parties are deliberately blocking legislation I could see it being necessary. And of course there’s No Confidence, but that triggers an election regardless of what the governing party wants.
The other party being in disarray and the governing party wants to take advantage of that is not an acceptable reason to call a snap election. Elections costs money, and having a healthy debate between different parties is a significant part of a democracy. The NDP tried to take advantage of another party being in between leaders to try to avoid debate and get an easy election win. The NDP chose an easy win over democratic principles and BC voters punished them for it.
If this is what a New Democratic Party is all about, I don’t want this “new democracy”. The NDP disrespected democracy and were rightly punished for it.
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You need to engage with the people and convince them of policies you want, not try to impose them from above. There is no “silent majority” that wants the same things you do. You aren’t going to scam people into accepting your ideas in the same way the NDP tried to scam their way into an easy election win through shenanigans.
That’s a pretty leftist approach. There is a silent majority though - on material issues that cut across party lines - like affordability. But even then the way to get people to recognize that and sign up for your solution is through otganizing at the bottom.
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He could’ve resigned at any time if that was the case. Guy was just being opportunistic and people don’t like these kinds of shenanigans.
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That doesn’t pass the sniff test. His party had 2 more years in power, which is plenty of time to choose a new leader ahead of the next election. If he wanted out, he could have stepped down.
No, I think this was the NDP senior strategists/leadership expectations that the opposition was in such disarray that they could cruise to an easy majority. We’re they not paying attention last election? BCU folded as soon as it was obvious they were unelectable; it wasn’t 4D chess to think the nascent right-wing parties would fold even earlier.
They also handed the BC Cons an excuse for not having an election platform—they were in disarray just trying to respond to their leadership turnover and the unfair election, so just saying “trust us, we’re better” seemed reasonable to voters.
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Didn’t they literally vote for this? I’m sad BC is so backwards. Conservatism is cancer.
Normally the cities vote NDP/liberal and the rural/small towns would vote conservative. This time, major parts of Vancouver voted conservative. My guess is homelessness was the major issue that turned lots of people, that and people pissed at Eby calling an election early.
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and the Cons help with homelessness by doing what? Everywhere else they want to bulldoze the encampments, making people even more homeless.
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They want them in treatment or in jail. But they don’t want them in treatment.
There you go, that’s the platform.
12 daysAs someone living around Edmonton I think what conservatives want is for homeless to kill themselves or magically disappear out of sight without any help at all. They don’t die that quick though so there’s just more homeless than ever downtown, now without help or safe injection sites. A few years back the city shut off public water fountains. It’s been reversed since but it was pretty fucked situation, was handing out water bottles and blankets before winter as part of a volunteer gig with a friend.
- kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish12 days
and people pissed at Eby calling an election early.
Calling an unnecessarily early election seldom goes well for the party who caused the election.
Even worse if they were viewed to be doing it for blatantly opportunistic political reasons.
Yup, don’t disagree. However, like the other poster said, people are voting against their best interest because they’re annoyed they have to go vote. Seems shortsighted if BC ends up privatising healthcare or follows through with anything else they’ve talked about.
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Completely stupid reason to vote against your own interests.
Oh yeah I’m SO pissed that I have to spend literally less time voting than I do sitting at a Starbucks drive-thru for a $9 coffee every day.
No you’re not. Your pea brain is delighted to be fooled into thinking you’re some arbiter of political justice.
There is no justifiable reason to vote the conservatives into power. If the only reason is “Eby bad” the congrats, you now understand how MAGA is in power now. No ideas, lots of insults, attacks and criticisms with no firm solution offered.
- 11 days
Idk, if a coffee is more than $2 I about. I would never buy one over $5. That’s insane to me. I can’t fathom it.
I know I’m off topic, but do people really do that? No judgement, it’s your money. I’m just curious.
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Lol I don’t but people absolutely do. Starbucks (I would never as its an american company) will run you 8, 9 even 10 dollars for a customized specialty drink, easy.
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I wonder if the recent leftist sweep of the municipal election energized conservative voters.
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Anecdotally, a few of my regular NDP voting family from Burnaby voted con because “the drugs and homelessness” - though they didn’t elaborate beyond that.
Technically, if there are no homeless people alive, that fixes the problem. Obviously I hope it doesn’t get to that point, but that seems to be the underlying message of the cons whenever they talk about the problem.
- ryper@lemmy.caEnglish12 days
Doerkson will lead B.C.’s first Conservative government in nearly 100 years—while Eby announced he would step down as B.C. NDP leader.
You know you fucked up when you lose to a party that hadn’t had a majority in almost a century.
- Canaconda@lemmy.caEnglish11 days
BCLiberals were a conservative party. Both Rustad and Lorne were former elected members.
The grift and corruption is going to be savage. It took us many years to recover from the Krusty Clark years, now the circus is back in town. It’s going to be a cluster fuck.
Oh great… Just what canada needed, to be even more like the US 🤮 Thanks BC, you shall henceforth be known as bullshit columbia
Just ugh, so disgusting
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You know what could’ve avoided this outcome? Not calling a snap election.
New Dumbass Party helped make Bullshit Columbia possible. Blame them, not the entire province.
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A snap election was a silly miscalculation. It was the electors who individually made the choice.
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Blaming the voters for the failures of a political party is not a winning strategy.
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Are voters the ones calling a needless snap election and playing sneaky games to secure power for themselves?
Did voters not elect NDP to lead BC in 2024?
Do voters owe their vote to the Left regardless of what they do?
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Oh goodness. I felt that they were the one provincial government who put up a fight against environmental destruction.
Quebec was also against pipelines but for their own self interest and they have also had a change in government. I’m not sure where they stand now.
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Nope, many would-be supporters (I’m not just talking greens, I’m talking NDP too) said the BCNDP wasn’t good enough, super liberal, destroying the environment because they compromised on a southern pipeline expansion to avoid a northern lng project and somehow fighting against indigenous rights on behalf of the Musqueam in the Cowichan case. So, here we are, welcome to the government of BC’s dreams, principles and conscience.
So you’re blaming the voters who went Green rather than the party that should be reading the room and shifting to where the voters are if they want their votes?
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No I’m not. I saw the diagram in this post:
https://mastodon.social/@GarrickWinter/117502400402320684
A first order estimation, take 275k ndp voters that chose not to vote, subtract 23k new green voters that could have moved from ndp (so excluding them from blame), it’s around 250k people that sat it out for the ndp I’m blaming for this the most giving the Conservatives the win.
Green splitting is a reality, particularly on Vancouver island but it’s the same as every FPTP election. It’s not the fact people voted for greens that I blame them for. It’s the promotion of the idea that BCNDP and Conservatives are no different, which helps depress turnout, rather than a yes/and. We’re about to see very clearly what the difference is. I tried to get the vote out but to no avail it seems.
Also shoutout to @Sunshine@piefed.ca you did your part, I can tell you were a Greens supporter but I won’t blame you or be snarky because you recognized the difference and helped try to turn things around despite the BCNDP’s bad snap election decision.
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I wish leftists were as consistent at voting as conservatives. It doesn’t seem to matter where you live, the hateful asshole vote is nearly guaranteed but any disagreement will cause their opposition to stay home
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the progressive purity test…cons don’t do that. Gun nuts…i don’t care about the rest of the policies. Against SOGI…i don’t care about the rest of policies. Progressives…i don’t like what you said about Israel 12 years ago I’m not voting
Conservatives seem more willing to hold their noses and work with allies they dislike if it gets them what they want.
- 11 days
The conservatives hadn’t won in 100 years. That’s at least, somewhat consistent
Stop letting people over 50 vote. Boom problem solved. Outdated people with outdated views and outdated opinions have no business picking how the current generation and the next one do things.
Wow. Legitimately thanks for clarifying, I actually really appreciate it.
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I don’t know if I’m missing sarcasm here? Or maybe I know fuck all about the BC conservative party (definitely true).
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The last sentence was 100% sarcasm but you can find opinions that effectively say the stuff above that, within this thread and in the BritishColumbia lemmy community here and there over the last months.
- Tigeroovy@lemmy.caEnglish12 days
Wonder who the premiere will be!
All kinds of crack pots to choose from in that party I suppose. Spin the roulette wheel of conspiracy truther racists and let’s see where it lands.
Oh man this is terrible. Sorry to everyone in BC. I hope this somehow flips back before too much damage is done there.
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Yeah, it won’t. We’re in it for 4 years, come hell or high water.
I wonder how many hours it will be before they lube up and bend over for the USA. The sweet talk will begin in no time.
No! Bad Canada! Cascadia wants to join you, not have you join Cascadia
The Socialist Enviro-Lesbian Revolution has been cancelled and the celebratory barbeque will serve hot dogs and no, there will be no kosher halal or vegan option. Cooking will be done over propane and musical choices will be Hedley and Three Doors Down.
BC you chose some Alberta level shit. This is bad mmmkay?
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Please stand by for MANY, many more LAMF moments in BC politics!
Fuck you BC!
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am I the only conspiracy theorist here thinking Eby intentionally given BC to Cons when sh#t flies at high velocity towards the fan? This is such a blatant mistake that I refuse to believe it was an accident. Any careful polling would’ve shown the outcome WITHOUT election. So the only reasonable explanation it was rigged for the outcome. There are several explosive issues in a pipeline (pun intended) that Eby likely wasn’t looking forward to solve.
