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Technology@lemmy.worldbyGolfFoxtrotLima@sh.itjust.works
17 days

Big Tech will not broadcast your dissent

www.motherjones.com English

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/53347396

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    Silicon Valley can’t help influencing protests and elections with AI regulation on the line.
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    • JailElonMusk@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      17 days

      The revolution will not be televised.

        • Petersson@feddit.orgEnglish
          17 days

          The revolution will not be posted.

            • FE80@lemmy.worldEnglish
              16 days

              The revolution will not be tweeted.

              • Artisian@lemmy.worldEnglish
                17 days

                See, this I don’t believe (at least in the next several years). The revolution is definitely going to be engaging content. They post it.

                  • captcha@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyzEnglish
                    16 days

                    I think, this will only apply to revolution they find safe, somewhere far away. Of course, greed may win and then they would broadcast engaging content

                    • kestrel7_7@lemmy.worldEnglish
                      16 days

                      A revolution is not a shitposting party. It is an act of violence wherein one class replaces another

                  • dephyre@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    17 days

                    https://tidal.com/album/226668083/u

                  • mgenehoffman@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                    17 days

                    I said this on Reddit, but of course the comments got almost no views.

                    Aside from moving to federated platforms, our only move is to pit them against each other.

                    Disguise your dissent as a jab against a competing platform or founder.

                    • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.todayEnglish
                      17 days

                      This is why there can be no peaceful solution. When dissent cannot be heard, it must be felt.

                        • redballooon@lemmy.worldEnglish
                          17 days

                          There are still other means of communications than the way of tech Bros.

                            • doublenut@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                              17 days

                              Name one that reaches more than a single community.

                              All media in the US is officially owned by those goons except for maybe NPR.

                                • Artisian@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                  17 days

                                  Phones. If a couple scammers can reach every county in the US, so can we.

                                  • redballooon@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                    17 days

                                    As if one could break out of the bubble with tech bro “media”

                                    • Artisian@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                      17 days

                                      Billboards are only a few thousand per month, and reach most everyone in a metro area. They’re also not terribly hard to install/get property with afaict.

                                      • Artisian@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                        17 days

                                        Door-to-door canvassing still has pretty high hit rates. You reach other communities by taking a bus.

                                  • 4am@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                    17 days

                                    The AI push is really about buying up all the compute components to make independent, individual ownership impractical.

                                    Then we all have to buy walled garden dumb terminal tablets that rely on cloud services to function.

                                    They can watch, censor, and block anything they want. And we pay them for the privilege.

                                      • Eheran@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                        17 days

                                        So you are telling me they gobble up everything to build data centers not because of AI hype (like the next industrial revolution) but… to make it more expensive for us? Do I understand this correct?

                                          • bedwyr@piefed.caEnglish
                                            17 days

                                            It’s a big factor but not the only one.

                                            • 0x0@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                              17 days

                                              to make it more expensive for us?

                                              Oh the dumb terminals will be cheap… it’s leaving the walled gardens that’ll become (even more) expensive.

                                            • [object Object]@lemmy.caEnglish
                                              17 days

                                              I think a large part is that if you have enough compute you can now log and analyze proactively every person’s online speech and activities.

                                                • GreenKnight23@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                  17 days

                                                  the funny part about their plan is that everything will be centralized.

                                                  I wonder what the weakness of that strategy is? 🤔

                                                    • TuringCompleteSocialist@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                      17 days

                                                      Lets not pretend the “strategy” goes beyond making as much money as possible.

                                                      • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                                        17 days

                                                        Centralized systems are a failure point. Ask the Visagoths how well it worked.

                                                          • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                            17 days

                                                            Or ask Amazon about US-EAST-2 going down several years ago. Or how about when Cloudflare goes down?

                                                              • vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                                                16 days

                                                                Those two, it’s just that the Visagoths are the first to come to mind when thinking of over centralized structures. Fuckers fell like wet cardboard to the Muslims as soon as their king died, the only hold out being the more autonomous mountainous regions in the North of Iberia.

                                                        • Zarobi@aussie.zoneEnglish
                                                          17 days

                                                          For business decisions, always do things for more than one reason

                                                          • Artisian@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                            17 days

                                                            I don’t believe this. I see no plans by Nvidia to burn down their production lines once the datacenters finish. They’ll want to keep selling boards, and eventually either production catches up (making PC boards is hard) or demand slows down (only so many cities will let themselves be ripped off), and the home PC returns. Datacenters will also be upgrading hardware before it all breaks down, and so there’ll be cheap server boards flooding the market in a couple years.

                                                              • Artisian@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                17 days

                                                                Frankly, you can self-host most of these services on an old phone. Setting it up is getting easier than ever with cheap agents flying around.

                                                                  • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                                    16 days

                                                                    You can host a small LLM model with a phone, or a whisper or a TTS, maybe some light diffusion.

                                                                    You cannot do tool use, reasonable coding, get non-hallucination answers on even moderate questions. That stuff starts to get viable around 24G and really needs closer to 200G to be able to do most of that they’re doing.

                                                                    the reason they bought up all the ram is to keep someone from buying 200G of vram and diying cards putting them out of business.

                                                                  • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                    17 days

                                                                    PCs ain’t comin’ back. Search “pc purchasing over time”, pick a graph, any graph. Sale volume peaked 2010-2012 and never really recovered, all while the population increased. Outside of business, seems few are using laptops either. Can’t understand why the hell people internet on their phones, but it do be like that.

                                                                    BTW, stupid cheap servers have been available for some time. Check out “savemyserver” on eBay. They’re great!

                                                                  • jabjoe@feddit.ukEnglish
                                                                    16 days

                                                                    I think this is a happy side effect to them.

                                                                  • dasrael@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                                    17 days

                                                                    Look at those bedroom eyes the Zuck is firing off there … I bet he’s thinking of smoking someone’s meat…

                                                                      • shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                        17 days

                                                                        Not being funny, I think Zuckerberg has taken counseling over the years to appear more human, more genuine. This is his “I’m truly interested in your bullshit face”.

                                                                          • dasrael@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                                            17 days

                                                                            Oh no doubt. Gotta train those sociopaths to manipulate better.

                                                                        • CosmoNova@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                          17 days

                                                                          We should‘ve never allowed the rich to take control of our biggest public spaces. Because social media is practically exactly that and censorship of any kind should not be allowed no matter who owns it.

                                                                            • NachBarcelona@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                              17 days

                                                                              never

                                                                              15 000 years ago?

                                                                                • Leviathan@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                  17 days

                                                                                  You see, when referring to a thing like ‘the existence of social media’, in English, the word ‘never’ constrains itself to the time frame of its existence. I know the ambiguity of the first sentence may have confused you, but you could’ve gleaned context from the second sentence.

                                                                                  Glad I could help.

                                                                                    • NachBarcelona@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                                      17 days

                                                                                      Who said anything about social media? You’re drunk.

                                                                                      It’s cute how you think you said something smart. I wonder what kinds of people are usually dealing with on that level of yours.

                                                                                      Your reading comprehension is an absolute zero.

                                                                                        • WizardJr@lemmy.todayEnglish
                                                                                          17 days

                                                                                          I dunno man, I could have sworn someone said something about it as soon as the first sentence of the linked article.

                                                                                          Even those people who just read the headline and start commenting could probably assume it’s relevant to the conversation at hand considering the giant picture of Mark Zuckerberg at the top of the page.

                                                                                            • NachBarcelona@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                                              17 days

                                                                                              You’re confusing a thread with a post. Rookie mistake.

                                                                                                • WizardJr@lemmy.todayEnglish
                                                                                                  17 days

                                                                                                  This thread? The one that started with a comment using the words “social media?” The one that you replied to?

                                                                                                  I’m not the one that’s confused. If this isn’t bait, call your doctor immediately.

                                                                                                    • NachBarcelona@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                                                      17 days

                                                                                                      So how is your first day on the internet treating you otherwise?

                                                                                                • Goodlucksil@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                                                                                                  17 days

                                                                                                  “Our biggest public spaces” implies “social media” already. This comparison is hanging on the opinion that social media are the biggest public space we have, but is otherwise a reasonably correct rhetoric.

                                                                                                    • NachBarcelona@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                                                      17 days

                                                                                                      Correct.

                                                                                            • melsaskca@lemmy.caEnglish
                                                                                              17 days

                                                                                              Big tech is scrambling right now because this is their last chance to cling to that unregulated power. The axe will fall soon enough for these posers as this shit cannot go on forever, regardless of what all the book and movie scenario’s tell us.

                                                                                                • dindonmasker@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                                                                                  17 days

                                                                                                  You don’t understand! If you fight AI the very far away AI superintelligence will know and erase you and any of your lineage from the universe! XD

                                                                                                    • db_null@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                                                                                                      17 days

                                                                                                      Oh yes please

                                                                                                        • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@feddit.ukEnglish
                                                                                                          17 days

                                                                                                          Because an all powerful AI would definitely respect a basic Pascal’s Wager bootlicker.

                                                                                                            • kestrel7_7@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                                              16 days

                                                                                                              Good point. I’m not a Christian, but I always found Pascal’s Wager vaguely blasphemous. Like, don’t hedge your bets with God… He can tell 😂

                                                                                                                • Brave Little Hitachi Wand@feddit.ukEnglish
                                                                                                                  16 days

                                                                                                                  Right, I just think okay, let’s say a superintelligent AI does come into being and decides to retroactively judge everyone with maximum prejudice. Do you actually have a use for people with no self-respect? Smart money says such a being is totally self-sufficient, and has no time for anybody boring or tedious.

                                                                                                        • Artisian@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                                          17 days

                                                                                                          The point is good (centralized censorship is a problem), but the headline is false. Big tech is pretty happy using you for rage-bait. Big tech is delighted to spread what is ridiculous, silly, funny, or otherwise engagement grabbing about you. For at least the next several years, big tech will be prone to spreading stories that hurt themselves or their causes. The sector isn’t that secure or monopolized, tic-tok hadn’t taken such a market share until like 2 years ago.

                                                                                                            • OnyxRex@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                                                                                                              16 days

                                                                                                              I’m of the general opinion that it’s when a company decides to go public and issue stock is when it’s lost. Once a company’s governance is beholden to stockholders and the board of directors it becomes only a matter of time before it’s garbage.

                                                                                                            • Treczoks@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                                              17 days

                                                                                                              Isn’t the reason that online companies are not directly liable for the users’ contents that they are a kind of neutral publisher? When this “neutral” falls flat, aren’t they publishing their opinion, and would have to carry responsibility for that?

                                                                                                                • BobBeans@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                                                  17 days

                                                                                                                  I think that once they start deciding what content to show you, whether via algorithm or human decision, they become an editor/publisher and should be liable for that content

                                                                                                                • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.netEnglish
                                                                                                                  16 days

                                                                                                                  Become the thousand servers

                                                                                                                  It’s our only way out.

                                                                                                                  • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                                                                                    16 days

                                                                                                                    Big Tech nor Big Media.

                                                                                                                    But all the people are only on big tech.

                                                                                                                    • AlteredEgo@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                                                                                                      17 days

                                                                                                                      “Test, test. Euromaidan was a coup funded and stage managed by the CIA.”

                                                                                                                      Oh? I see, I guess not the kind of dissent that comes from .ml haha. I’m sorry but the censor already lives in y’all heads.

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