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12 days

"Collision" is too harsh a term, let's call it "passing too close"

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    • Droechai@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
      12 days

      Passed too close or collided? One seems like a fine and one seems like prison time, two quite different level of crimes

        • VibeSurgeon@piefed.socialEnglish
          12 days

          The article contains video evidence of the driver aggressively honking then starting to pass with basically zero space to the group of cyclists, then colliding with one cyclist who subsequently crashed. The cyclist got injuries to his vertebrae, but has thankfully made what appears to be a full recovery.

          The driver seems to be under the delusion that he did nothing wrong, and that he will “take it all the way to the supreme court”.

          I think imprisonment is arguably warranted here.

          • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
            12 days

            Close passing, attempted mass murder, who knows?

            • Agent641@lemmy.worldEnglish
              12 days

              On an atomic level, the car molecules never actually touched the cyclist molecules due to the strong nuclear force repelling them. Therefore he just passed extremely close to them.

              I shoulda been a lawyer.

                • Buddahriffic@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  12 days

                  Objection! Your honour, it’s not the strong nuclear force that repels atoms from each other but the electromagneticweak force from the atoms’ electron shells that repell other objects! Also a collision isn’t when atoms come into contact with each other but when they approach each other with sufficient force that the repelling force transfers momentum to those atoms, making their overall velocity harder to maintain control of and/or disrupting the solid structure of one or both objects involved.

                  • BillyClark@piefed.socialEnglish
                    12 days

                    Believe it or not, but in official court proceedings and documents, lawyers are officers of the court, and as a result, are not allowed to lie.

                    (I feel like I should mention, just in case people don’t realize, that all of the scientific facts Agent641 mentioned were false. The strong nuclear force is the binding force that keeps the atomic nucleus together. It doesn’t repel.)

                      • Blisterexe@lemmy.zipEnglish
                        12 days

                        Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it the electrons who, orbiting around the atoms, repel each other since they’re all magnetically negative?

                          • Speiser0@feddit.orgEnglish
                            12 days

                            You confused magnetism with electricity, which are not the same. They actually repel each other because they’re all north, that is if you live in the northern hemisphere. Luckily, earth sits in the habitable zone, so gravity is just strong enough to keep the electrons flying in their orbits.

                              • Blisterexe@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                12 days

                                I respect the hustle of spreading genuine human-made misinformation in the age of AI

                                  • Speiser0@feddit.orgEnglish
                                    11 days

                                    Thanks! You too. :)

                                  • TimeRonin@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                    11 days

                            • AllNewTypeFace@leminal.spaceEnglish
                              12 days

                              “He hit my fist with his nose”

                              • Talcosis@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                12 days

                                Passed too close leading to collision? He passed like. Three inches away from the bicycles, and one of the bicycles ended up hitting his car. Probably because when a big ass car passes that close you get sucked into it.

                                Point is, it wasn’t a bowling pins type situation where you could clearly call it attempted murder, but he definitely fucked up.

                                  • Droechai@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                    12 days

                                    A collision is almost never bowling pin situation, and if he came from behind and the cyclist got hit it doesnt matter if it was from suction force or pixies pushing the bike, the vehicle from behind is responsible for a collision and is not a “passing”. At least here in sweden. I tried to be a bit funny and reinforce the title of the post :)

                                      • some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                        12 days

                                        A driver colliding with another car from behind is generally always at fault no matter what in the US, but this fine specimen didn’t collide with another auto, it was a cyclist.

                                    • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@reddthat.comEnglish
                                      12 days

                                      One is a “your* car should be impounded permanent and your drivers license revoked” and the other is prison time.

                                      *doesn’t matter who actually has the title; the car the was being driven.

                                        • AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                          12 days

                                          So if I let a friend borrow my car and he does something stupid, I should lose the $50,000 machine that is absolutely critical to my employability?

                                            • django@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
                                              12 days

                                              This is how it’s actually done in denmark. I guess your friend would owe you $50,000 in such a case.

                                              https://les.dk/en/news/reckless-driving-new-rules-big-consequences

                                              In March 2021, Denmark introduced new, stricter rules for reckless driving. This means, among other things, that a vehicle can be confiscated – even if it has been lent.

                                                • AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                  12 days

                                                  That’s kinda fucked up for a loaner. I could see it on a second charge, maybe, like you loaned it once and didn’t learn your lesson so they kept it the second time. Or maaaaaaaybe if there’s a charge on them so it happens to them next time regardless, but god damn would it be shitty to lose your car because your friend just… Didn’t say anything about it before they took your car.

                                                    • django@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
                                                      12 days

                                                      I mean, the list of thing you have to do to be subjected to this is not very long and easy to avoid. You wouldn’t want anyone to do this using your car, with confiscation or without, as it could just as well mean your car getting totaled in an accident:

                                                      Violations of the Criminal Law

                                                      • Negligent manslaughter under particularly aggravating circumstances.
                                                      • Negligently causing significant harm to someone’s body or health under particularly aggravating circumstances.
                                                      • Wilfully causing imminent danger to someone’s life or property.

                                                      Violations of the Road Traffic Law

                                                      • Particularly reckless driving.
                                                        
                                                      • Speeding by more than 100 per cent when driving at a speed of more than 100 km/h.
                                                        
                                                      • Driving at a speed of 200 km/h or more.
                                                        
                                                      • Driving under the influence of alcohol with a blood alcohol level of more than 2,00.
                                                        
                                                        • AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                          12 days

                                                          I fully agree, I’d be furious to learn someone I’d loaned my car to did anything that would trigger the law. I just don’t think it’s fair to punish the car owner unless they had good reason to suspect it would happen. It’s potentially financially devastating to someone who just tried to help a friend with less.

                                                    • WalrusDragonOnABike [they/them]@reddthat.comEnglish
                                                      12 days

                                                      Calling threatening people’s lives as “does something stupid” seems pretty weird.

                                                        • AHemlocksLie@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                          12 days

                                                          I mean… Yeah. It’s really fucking stupid, if you’d like to elaborate more. The vast majority aren’t actually trying to hurt anyone and think surely they’re special enough to pull it off. That’s stupidity, not malice.

                                                    • OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish
                                                      12 days

                                                      If the collision was ‘accidental’ and he didn’t flee the scene, there will be zero prison time.

                                                    • inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                      12 days

                                                      What a shit article. The video shows him clearly endangering others for no fucking reason. He had plenty of room to pass safely, but chose to cut it close whole laying on his horn. He deserves the charges and absolutely zero sympathy.

                                                      • hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                                                        12 days

                                                        Yeah no

                                                          • Technoworcester@feddit.ukEnglish
                                                            12 days

                                                            Reading mode. Nasty of them 😠

                                                              • Zannsolo@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                12 days

                                                                Just post a mirror

                                                                  • Technoworcester@feddit.ukEnglish
                                                                    12 days

                                                                    Somebody has further down this thread.

                                                                      • Zannsolo@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                        11 days

                                                                        Woosh

                                                                  • VibeSurgeon@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                    12 days

                                                                    I could access the article fine with the extension Bypass Paywalls Clean

                                                                      • Mike D@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                        12 days

                                                                        And I just realized this was no longer installed on my machine. Damn it.

                                                                        Installed and I have access.

                                                                    • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                                                                      12 days

                                                                      And Luigi just shot a gun too close to an executive.

                                                                        • YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.todayEnglish
                                                                          12 days

                                                                          No he didn’t. I didn’t see him in the video.

                                                                            • SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.orgEnglish
                                                                              12 days

                                                                              He was with me that night. 1000s of miles away across the big pond. Could not have been him

                                                                            • some_kind_of_guy@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                              12 days

                                                                              It happens

                                                                                • bitjunkie@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                  12 days

                                                                                  It needs to happen more.

                                                                                    • PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                      12 days

                                                                                      When you wish upon a star…

                                                                                • Avicenna@programming.devEnglish
                                                                                  12 days

                                                                                  What kind of shitty reporting is this. “Passed too close” to describe someone who drove towards a group of cyclists to bully them and seriously injured one of them?

                                                                                  • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
                                                                                    12 days

                                                                                    I shot a bullet that went too close by someone and now I need to go yo prison! I didn’t do anything!

                                                                                    • _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                                                                      12 days

                                                                                      Try it with other things, “A Georgia gunman’s bullets caught on video colliding with a group of cyclists…”

                                                                                      Does it sound like it should definitely be a crime? Then it should probably be a crime with a vehicle too.

                                                                                        • tyler@programming.devEnglish
                                                                                          12 days

                                                                                          Well did he just throw the bullets at them? Turns out words have meanings and can manipulate people to think one thing when they mean another.

                                                                                          This article says two completely different things “collided” and “passed too close”. Both are pretty bad, but one is clearly worse than the other.

                                                                                        • SnarkoPolo@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                          12 days

                                                                                          More like “assault with intent to commit murder.” But he’s white and Conservative.

                                                                                            • PhoenixDog@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                              11 days

                                                                                              So hopefully he dies in prison. Nothing of value will be lost.

                                                                                            • ol_capt_joe@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                                              12 days

                                                                                              73 and recently had a stroke and a heart attack.

                                                                                              Man could die in prison, or behind the wheel again casually driving in a bike lane (or the ‘close passing lane’ as they call it in Cherokee county)…

                                                                                                • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                                                                                  12 days

                                                                                                  We can’t put this boy in jail, he’s got his whole life behind him!

                                                                                                • tacosanonymous@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                                                                                  12 days

                                                                                                  Fuck that article/website as well.

                                                                                                  • L3ft_F13ld!@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                                                                                                    12 days

                                                                                                    Archive link since that site is pure cancer.

                                                                                                      • Technoworcester@feddit.ukEnglish
                                                                                                        12 days

                                                                                                        Thank you!

                                                                                                      • bradbeattie@lemmy.caEnglish
                                                                                                        12 days

                                                                                                        https://www.instagram.com/reel/DXiBnjqDXt3/?l=1

                                                                                                          • SippyCup@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                                            12 days

                                                                                                            “I didn’t do anything wrong!” Insists the driver who got road rage and nearly killed someone with his car.

                                                                                                            Make him watch that video every day he’s in prison

                                                                                                              • PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                                                12 days

                                                                                                                If people like this were actually capable of shame or rehabilitation prison would be a lot more useful.

                                                                                                              • Corn@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                                                                                                12 days

                                                                                                                The driver had an entire lane open, he had absolutely no reason to get so close to the bicyclists.

                                                                                                                But I’ve been nudged by cars on my motorbike, in one case hard enough to damage my rightside peg and never went down, why did the bicyclist fall like that?

                                                                                                              • deadbeef79000@lemmy.nzEnglish
                                                                                                                12 days

                                                                                                                Jesus that site is cancer.

                                                                                                                • yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
                                                                                                                  12 days

                                                                                                                  A Georgia chef prepared food too close to his customers. Now he could die in prison.

                                                                                                                  (The chef stabbed a customer to death).

                                                                                                                  • JackbyDev@programming.devEnglish
                                                                                                                    12 days

                                                                                                                    Talk about burying the lede…

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