1 monthGee, kidnap a national leader, blow up random fishing boats, and start a war, and they don’t think you deserve a peace prize? What is this world coming to?
Does the Nobel Peace Prize even have legitimacy at this point?
- 1 month
“They have a reputation for maybe not giving it to people like me.”
You mean people actively involved in war? Yeah. If you stopped the war tomorrow maybe you’d be eligible.
- NABDad@lemmy.worldEnglish1 month
How do you define actively involved in war?
We were actively involved in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan when President Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize.
- 30 days
Feels like a bad faith argument. Obama probably shouldn’t have won a peace prize, most people agree with that. But he was not responsible for Iraq and Afghanistan the way that Trump directly caused the current conflict. While he continues to lie about it in the news every day.
- deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.mlEnglish30 days
How is he not? He personally supported drone strikes all over and even did more than the Bush admin. He is absolutely “responsible for Iraq and Afghanistan the way that Trump directly caused the current conflict.”, by every definition. He ran and won on ending the war on terror.
There were 52 drone strikes on Pakistan from 2004 through the end of Bush’s term in 2009, but in the subsequent five years, President Obama allegedly launched at least 316 drone strikes on Pakistan, at least 43 on Yemen and three on Somalia. (In the cases of Yemen and Somalia, Obama has not restricted himself to drones. His administration also launched an attack on Yemen in December 2009 that consisted of cruise missiles laden with cluster bombs that killed 41 civilians, including 12 women and 22 children.)
https://www.citizen.org/news/terrors-of-u-s-drone-war-brought-to-light/
- 30 days
Yeah, drone strikes. And why are those worse than artillery bombardments?
- 30 days
False equivalency. Not ending wars fast enough is not the same thing as Trump literally starting a war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal_of_United_States_troops_from_Afghanistan_(2011–2016)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal_of_United_States_troops_from_Iraq_(2007–2011)
Where is the page about Trump announcing a withdrawal from Iran? When that page exists, maybe then you can call them equivalent. Until then, it’s a bad faith argument.
- 1 month
To be honest he deserve it since the Nobel prize was always the Nobel criminality prize
