I know that might mean having to play ball with and pretend to be a Democrat, but even on a local scale wouldn’t that be an effective strategy? Even if you were trying to tear down The System, wouldn’t it help to have someone on the inside?

Yes but I think people put way too much into the mainstream dem party only to be shoved out. Some people I’ve organized with have worked with the DNC before. It is not effective strategy to “have someone in the inside “ because someone who gets paid by the DNC or is a member takes an oath to uphold a racist constitution and to uphold capital over their neighbors well being.

In my experience (and others, in real life) the dnc drops you over shareholders/lobbyist/rich people with interests against regular people (I can get into this more if you’d like) 100% of the time, why would I waste time giving them anything besides a vote every few years?

This doesn’t mean my counties D representatives are compromised or not worth working with/voting for, I’m talking about the DNC as a whole.

I mean I’m never going to personally be in public office, if that’s what you mean. And sorry if this comes off as mean and you’re being genuine, but unless you live where I do you probably won’t see the accomplishments stemming from myself or any organization I’m involved with. I mean, maybe if you’re a local organizer or artist or you’re homeless or something.

If you are DSA, then unironically I do look forward to seeing your party pop up into my area, because DSA would be infinitely more palatable to work with than mainstream dems. But DSA aren’t here so I don’t have any avenue to work with them.

Well thank you, because I have been shamed quite a bit today for caring despite always voting blue and then working from there, always punching right and never left, etc.

Capitalist, anti union party is still more similar than they are different. Celebrate all you want but the American left is not even halfway done with this battle, and some of you are acting like it is.

Well Talarico has the same racist immigration rhetoric that Trump does: deport drug dealers and criminals, even though we know most drug traffickers don’t come from Mexico through legal immigration and that’s a racist lie.

Amy Klobuchar receives money from a systemically genocidal apartheid state and she’s my new governor.

Being happy about the blue wave is one thing, I voted blue just in case, but acting like they (and more importantly their right wing capitulation) is also another thing.

Shame on me for trying to hold my party, and others who actually call themselves Socialists now, accountable from a left standpoint.

So called progressives have already called me slurs today and I fuckin voted. Idk what more you want from me. lol jfc. Hold your leaders accountable. Take a little criticism.

… (how does it make them different?) …

If you vote Green, you’re a dupe for the Republicans. If you vote Libertarian, you’re a dupe for the Democrats. If you don’t vote at all, you’re the singular reason my 60/40 district didn’t break the correct way.

This is a childish interpretation of electoral politics. How would a vote for a third party help any mainstream candidate? If you’ve vote for libertarians you’re just a libertarian dumbass. Lmfao.

If you vote for the correct party, you need to just shut up and get in line. Quit criticizing the party after the election. There’s nothing else to be done.

If you have a little flag that says “End the Wars” while you’re in line to vote, GTFO we don’t want you here, I don’t care who you are voting for.

Is this really how you feel? or some joke I’m not picking up on? You don’t think politicians should be held to any leftist standard if they win? Why tf not? Why do we even bother electing them, you want all of them to go John Fetterman? That’s how you fucking lose elections dude.

I actually believe that people who are anti-war and anti fascists opinions do matter, and if you want those people to vote and “break your counties election the right way” you are going to actually have to start caring about black people, LGBT and other marginalized groups, working class, and anti War activists.

If you’re trying to get people to vote liberal telling them to “fuck off we don’t want you here” is incredibly stupid and short sighted.

Not to be that guy but people kinda knew about Bill Clinton and still championed his politics. Like it wasn’t just a cheating scandal he was in a position of power and groomed an 18 year old, was close with Epstein, etc.

I think America has long proved that it was willing to vote for rapist pedophiles, or racist far right supremacists (Reagan).

While it is pretty blatant and specifically bad in Trump’s case, idk how you could support someone who is so obviously guilty of pedophilia, All victims of the Epstein racket deserve closure and justice, even if that means cracking down the hammer “on both sides”, with Chomsky, Clinton, Trump, etc.

shout out for bringing up nopixel I’ve been watching it like crazy lately. Only real ones understand. Bogg Dann music is some of the funniest shit I’ve ever heard

“Worse” doesn’t mean that Biden didn’t kill a lot of innocent people and children. Also Biden has killed more Palestinians than Trump has. Not sure how he’s been worse.

The problem you’re missing IS that they ran the same campaign… and WHAT happened in between those two elections? What happened, say, early October 2023 and as a result of? I’ll let you figure that one out for yourself.

Harris would have won if she moved left of Biden, woman or not. It was very clear that’s what we needed and it’s very clear they ran away from you (the blue voter) in favor of Trump voters. Why you’d still fall for it years later is beyond me.

Does anyone else remember Tim Walz, governor of my great home state, who is on record saying he loves Isreal btw, told JD Vance in a debate about a “preemptive strike on Iran”? Because I do.

Hell, does anyone even remember during the state of the union Trump said he would invade Iran to “protect its sovereignty a after evil government killed a bajillion protesters” or something dumb like that and fucking ELIZABETH WARREN GAVE HIM A STANDING OVATION?!? because I remember.

People don’t see war and genocide in terms of “bad and worse” because that’s how children think and behave. Genocide is bad and genocidal democrats don’t deserve power because you think they’re a little bit better than the genocidal republicans.

You could just not use AI at all it’s pretty easy. I work with my hands

What?

How is he not? He personally supported drone strikes all over and even did more than the Bush admin. He is absolutely “responsible for Iraq and Afghanistan the way that Trump directly caused the current conflict.”, by every definition. He ran and won on ending the war on terror.

There were 52 drone strikes on Pakistan from 2004 through the end of Bush’s term in 2009, but in the subsequent five years, President Obama allegedly launched at least 316 drone strikes on Pakistan, at least 43 on Yemen and three on Somalia. (In the cases of Yemen and Somalia, Obama has not restricted himself to drones. His administration also launched an attack on Yemen in December 2009 that consisted of cruise missiles laden with cluster bombs that killed 41 civilians, including 12 women and 22 children.)

https://www.citizen.org/news/terrors-of-u-s-drone-war-brought-to-light/