• Leviathan@lemmy.world
    8 hours

    I generally try not to yuck anyone’s yum, I won’t make fun but I will just straight up say I don’t believe in anything spiritual or magical.

    • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
      3 hours

      I’m a bit more open minded; who really knows what’s going on beyond the reality that we see and interact with on a daily basis.

      That said, I do think that anyone who claims to be an expert on that stuff is full of shit and either lying to everyone else or themselves.

      Though my name comes from understanding enlightenment in a Buddhist sense is real, though even that isn’t as mystical as it can seem to the unenlightened. It’s just the process of growing wiser and “enlightenment” is the moment of epiphany when some piece of wisdom clicks.

      Like one of the early ones I remember having is realizing that doctors, police, or whatever authority people are just people like anyone else, they have good days and bad days where they might just want whatever problem you have for them to go away rather than get solved. Some are diligent workers, some cheated their way to where they are, some failed upwards. Some think “I don’t know” threatens their position and will instead lie with confidence, assuming you’ll never know any better. Some assume they even know better without actually knowing and just act on that.

      It’s obvious in hindsight but felt pretty profound when it clicked in my mind.

  • elucubra@sopuli.xyz
    10 hours

    I have a female friend who is an Astronomer. I always call her Astrologer, especially at parties and such.

  • Bluewing@lemmy.world
    9 hours

    Better astrology than witchcraft. I have been through both in my younger days. I do have to admit, the witch was far more fun in bed.

  • orioler25@lemmy.world
    8 hours

    This is why I shittest every straight man by asking about astrology, y’know, to confirm he’s a liar.

  • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
    8 hours

    Or you can just have a decent personality. I’ve never had a problem with both not believing in their astrology and getting laid. Just don’t be a dick about it and talk about something else.

    • Lavender Breton @lemmy.zip
      19 hours

      What’s sadder is that yoga, chakras, and crystals are traditionally from religions within the Indian subcontinent. Westerners are simply taking aspects of South Asian cultures, indigenous cultures, African cultures, and then bastardising them into marketable “neo-pagan witchcraft.”

      • waterwasamistake@lemmy.zip
        8 hours

        Not the people, industries do that.

        People are very good at adopting whatever and thats mostly fine. Nobody is forced to partake in the corporate stuff. I also think its a bit unfair to westerners, we would like some culture too and we would not like to be restrained to christianity or the celtic stuff (that i personally like) but is very popular with nazis as well. In general living in the middle of europe everything native to my culture always feels a bit right wingey which many obviously dislike.

        Being part of a foreign religion doesn’t make it non bullshitty though. I will not just shit on any religion that i didn’t grow up with but you can’t argue that there aren’t people everywhere commercializing and using religion in their own interest.

      • Surp@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9 hours

        I’ve been at some concerts where I’ve seen people holding up crystals saying that they are absorbing energy. Seems like harmless fun to me. They aren’t out there killing people over it like religious people sometimes do.

  • menas@lemmy.wtf
    10 hours

    Mocking believes of others and surprised that other don’t want to be nearby. If you thin you have to disrespect everything your disbelieve, you are not that rational thinking person you think you are

    • waterwasamistake@lemmy.zip
      8 hours

      Its really not that easy.

      Don’t be a dick and let others be their kind of weird is in general good advice but you can make fun of someone without being a dick and “their kind of weird” might turn into something harmful.

      It might be okay, not okay or there might even be a need to ridicule certain ideas depending on the situation.

      If don’t think it is reasonable to expect the public to entertain any ridiculous idea at all times, if you want to voice your believes/opinions you will have to let others do the same and they might not be nice about it. But lets be honest here a lot of “believes” aren’t that nice themselves so…

      • menas@lemmy.wtf
        8 hours

        A harmful ideology is not the same, and nothing close of what we are talking about.

        Everyone have stupid believes, but not everyone is mocked. You cannot expect others to change their mind if you do not try yourself to consider what need is fulfill by this believe. As pointed in another comment, astrology is a way to make emotional connection with others. But one may have other reason we could not discover if we do no take their need and point of view seriously.

        This is a critical approach, and how we made science. Disdain produce ignorance and social domination.

        And even if one refuse to get medical assistance because of this believe (which is not in the core believe of astrology), you have more chance to convince that person after that honest investigation.

  • doingthestuff@lemy.lolEnglish
    1 day

    I’m straight, been married 32 years, and my wife hates astrology. There’s no dilemma.

    • Cypress@lemmy.zipEnglish
      9 hours

      even if i were male and straight, I don’t think i could ever respect astrology…

      but moreover, it’s creepy as fuck for someone to pretend a change in their beliefs just for sex. that’s kinda literally false pretense for sex. i know I’d never convince a jury of it, but as far as I’m concerned in my personal life, imagining doing such a thing fills me with revulsion and it crosses the line into sexual assault territory.

      • TubularTittyFrog@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4 hours

        you realize it’s incredibly common for folks to do this? of any gender?

        i broke up with most of my exes because they false presented themselves to me. they saw absolutely nothing wrong with it, and to them I was the one who was awful and terrible for not ‘loving and accepting them for who they really are’. i had one ex who specific said ‘you’d have never dated me if i had told you the truth’.

        was I sexually assaulted by those women? who deliberately lied to me to have sex and engage in a relationship with me?

        I don’t think very many people would consider what they did as sexual assault.

      • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
        6 hours

        The difference is most of them don’t believe in any of it. It’s just entertaining to them. Find ten people who say like astrology and ask them to make base a life deciding event on it all 10 of them will make the decision on factors outside of astrology.

        An easy way to tell, if they ask what month you were born in, they don’t believe in astrology… As the months don’t line up with the stars.

        • Tattorack@lemmy.world
          4 hours

          And then you have people like my own mom who judges, and forms whole opinions about, people based on their astrology signs.

          Even if some sort of behaviour completely contradicts their supposed astral sign, she’ll make it fit.

  • FluidBeef@quokk.auEnglish
    1 day

    I had several friends at school with the same birthday as me, so obviously we had the same personality and all the same stuff kept happening to us.