Would you think more of a President or Leader, if they did something bad, then said yea I screwed up but we are going to fix it, then fixed it?

Depends on if what he screwed up was children

Only slime balls, children, and cowards refuse to admit fault.

There was a joke at Bush’s expense, I believe, that was like “This man believes the same thing Wednesday as he did on Monday, no matter what happened on Tuesday.” Don’t be like that.

Not if it’s demonstrable that the bad thing was done with bad intent. Also, how many times have they lied to me before this specific thing? You get no credit for putting out the fire you start, especially if you know you were starting it, but to me intention is kinda irrelevent and I’ll explain why.

Personally speaking knowingly harming your own people is disqualifying, deserving of punishment and removal from access to power. Incompetence is not really different; just cause you fucked up and made a mistake, doesn’t undo the harm done in the process, nor is it an excuse to get to continue to use power and expect different outcomes, as you’ve shown you can’t be trusted with it regardless of sincerity. Far, FAR too often these days we are fed excuses and the idea that somehow it’s okay to have people in power who just weren’t really tested or prepared for it ruin things. Even if they fucked things up, they tried their best and didn’t really know what they were doing (one assumes) and that’s personally relatable… How is it okay to allow people like that to be put in charge and entrusted with power? Should we make your dog the dentist because he’s been a good boy despite not having any training or apparent capacity for the role, and are you going to be the first to sit in that chair?

We are not talking about personal relationships here, where failures and accidents might have personal impacts but none regarding the wellbeing of society holistically. You simply cannot treat people in positions of power with the same kind of grace, as the SCALE of their impact is capable of incredible harms, harms nearly beyond measure through social cost and structural damage to systems and people.

Absolutely! Everybody makes mistakes. Owning up to it and cleaning it up is much better than denying it, hiding it, and pretending the problem doesn’t exist.

I like presidents who don’t lie about everything all the time and cover things up.

Even if they can’t fix it being honest is worth everything.

We are living in the most insane time in the us right now because the president is devoid of truth.

As opposed to doing something bad and hiding it?
Is this an actual question or some political opinion about some camp?

I think more of anyone who does this.

If it’s fixable it can’t be that bad anyway. You can’t fix rape, and it’s pretty hard to “fix” a major corruption case (without spending a couple of years in prison, anyway).

Admitting a mistake and fixing it generally earns respect, whether you are a leader or not. But that mistake shouldn’t have led to something horrible, like someone’s death, and we must make sure that it was unintentional!

Probably, yeah.

There are 2 kinds of reaction to this- understanding that admitting a failure and owning up to it is a sign of character; and the other one, where any admission of failure is a sign of weakness and the leader is no longer to be trusted. I’m in the first camp but a lot of this country (US) is in the second

I already think more of leaders at my work that can take responsibility for mistakes.

The best places I’ve worked have had supervisors who are willing to take ownership of their mistakes and are open about how they work to improve. There are limits (no free passes for mowing down a dozen grandmothers running a soup kitchen, for example) and the improvement work has to be relevant and sincere but when it’s done right, this is a worthwhile example to set. Also shouldn’t come down like a ton of bricks if the new hire does something dumb and comes forward when they recognize their error. Can save a lot of time, money, and aggravation when the work environment prioritizes fixing the problem over assigning the blame.

I’d think more of a politician whose only done good but I do believe in forgiveness. I’d argue once fixed they’re back to neutral anything past that is positive

As long as they’re nothin like the orange pedophile