there seems to be a real emotional response by many people…
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- psud@aussie.zoneEnglish5 hours
You sound like the half a percent of people who eat only meat, who don’t eat more meat than the average omnivore, but do eat the fat are responsible for global warming
We tend to be more careful of the meat we buy than average too, avoiding feed lot animals and those feed grains as they have the wrong balance of fats
Have you looked at how the fertilisers for plants are made? They aren’t green. They aren’t carbon neutral like beef is.
- jet@hackertalks.comEnglish6 hours
That is the prevailing opinion, yet opinions do differ - https://discuss.online/post/47173234
- silly_goose@lemmy.todayEnglish9 hours
I assume it’s similar to how a carnivore might get triggered by serial killers or cannibals.
A cannibal or mass murderer might think it’s useless or delusional to “leak your empathy” beyond yourself or your own family.
You probably extend your empathy to most humans. A lot of people extend it to animals to different degrees and we perceive the other groups as a threat.
- psud@aussie.zoneEnglish5 hours
I would rather animals die to feed me than for me be as unhealthy as I was when I ate plants.
- silly_goose@lemmy.todayEnglish15 minutes
If you could be just as healthy eating plants would you be plant based instead?
22 hoursI mean…“Look at me, I’m a human. I enslave millions (billions?) of animals for the express purpose of slaughter and give them shitty lives just because. Then, I buy their meat from a store, not having to face death myself. Teehee why do people get so triggered?”
I’m an omnivore, so it’s not like I don’t get it. But even from my viewpoint meat eaters are insufferable about their meat eating. Some make it their whole personality.
So yeah, that and carnivores pushing around vegetarians and vegans for so long probably didn’t help. “Ew, rabbit food” and whatnot. Even you’re doing it now, what with choosing to use the word “trigger” like it doesn’t already have a meaning.
Just be better. No one cares if you eat meat.
- psud@aussie.zoneEnglish5 hours
One animal per person per year for cattle. Compared to the number of field animals killed by harvesting machines for people who eat wheat or drink beer. And I’d prefer to eat retired dairy cattle if they were available, and those have a good life, as the slightest problem stops them giving milk
No one cares if you eat meat
How can you have visited this community and think that? We post a science paper saying it’s healthy to eat meat and it will attract more down votes than this community ever sees in up votes
There are comments above yours in this thread telling us we’re as bad as cannibals, or cause global warming
I notice that you “who doesn’t care what we eat” down voted this post, along with five others who presumably don’t have a problem with us
- jet@hackertalks.comEnglish10 hours
Thank you for sharing.
The fact you express your omnivore diet in terms of ‘slavery’, ‘shitty lives’ demonstrates you have lots of guilt associated with your omnivore lifestyle. I see a few options for you - go full plant based, or purchases meat that doesn’t have a bad life (i.e. meat your local regenerative farmer)
carnivores pushing around vegetarians and vegans
Carnivore isn’t about other people, its a eating pattern, which is a powerful tool in fixing metabolic health. It’s really not about what other people eat. Framing everything in a combative either or probably is also adding to the guilt you carry.
Just be better.
That is why we are here, to be better together. Thank you for joining us.
Oh look, more bad faith arguments. Was that your alt I was arguing with earlier? Edit: Hahaha it IS his alt! Hahahahahahaha
I feel guilty sure, but who’re you to tell me what to do? Why don’t you eat something other than meat? See how that works? Oh and I’d be first in line for lab grown meat, so wrong again.
You just use what you believe are ‘smart’ words to disguise your illogic.
Also I specifically said no one cares if you eat meat. That includes me. No need to segue randomly to “metabolic health” (you don’t know what metabolism means huh) because you don’t have any counter arguments.
Man, you’re really dumb. You used the word “trigger” then got* big mad that someone matched that energy.
Pathetic. Pathetic and really stupid. You’re probably feeling guilty about being a dumb piece of shit. Should go address that.
- jet@hackertalks.comEnglish10 hours
I feel guilty sure, but who’re you to tell me what to do?
We are just chatting, living with guilt is troublesome, i would like to see you have a healthier relationship with yourself.
Why don’t you eat something other than meat?
It’s not healthy for me, i react poorly to plant based foods, but that doesn’t mean other people can’t enjoy them.
See how that works?
Yup! It’s a wonderful way to have a conversation!
Oh and I’d be first in line for lab grown meat, so wrong again.
It’s already available for sale in singapore, but its 97% plant based 3% “lab meat”, but it’s a start.
You just use what you believe are ‘smart’ words to disguise your illogic.
Sure please show me my illogic and i’ll evaluate it to inform my future logic.
Also I specifically said no one care if you eat meat. That includes me.
I feel guilty sure
Sounds like you do care.
you don’t know what metabolism means
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/metabolism
The dynamic energy storage and utilization throughout the human body. Including all energetic substrates, cell health (especially mitochondrial health), oxidation… .basically anything that uses ATP, which is pretty much everything in the body.
you’re really dumb
Great, please educate me (with sources), I am happy to get better.
You used the word “trigger” then get big mad that someone matched that energy.
You are clearly triggered here, your guilt, the projection of biases and motivations i haven’t demonstrated. That is ok, it’s what i asked for in the post after all. I’m glad you are explaining things to me now
Pathetic. Pathetic and really stupid. You’re probably feeling guilty about being a dumb piece of shit. Should go address that.
Lots of angry energy, are you doing ok?
Lmao look at this guy. Sources huh? If you’re so smart, why are you asking such a dumb fucking question here?
I’m not gonna address your other angry bullshit. Just be mad, you’re really bad at hiding it.
Hey man, just like, give me some sources maaaaan proceeds to give no fucking sources of his own this entire time
Edit: oh also, you said “metabolic health”, which if you knew the definition of the word, you’d have known was nonsense.
How can someone be this dumb? Holy shit man
- jet@hackertalks.comEnglish7 hours
that is enough of that, thank you for demonstrating what triggered behavior is - but clearly this community isn’t a good match for you.
You’re very quick to assume, and to impose your morality on others. We could all be better.
I’m not gonna deny that I can be better, but if what you got out of what I said was soley ‘assumptions’, then are you not imposing your misinterpretation over the truth?
You can play word games, but in the end, most of what I’ve stated are facts or close to them. Also, you stated ‘assumptions’ but gave no examples?
So uh, what’s your deal?
I was stating an observation. Here’s another: you’re also very defensive. Perhaps some introspection is in order?
Lmao you’re arguing in bad faith and want me to be introspective? Do you know what that word means?
Lmao turns out it’s just a troll
Why, so you can spread more bullshit unimpeded? No, I’ll continue to call you out thanks.
And no, pretty clearly you’re the only troll here. Go ahead and block me though, if you’d like!
Lmao talking about assumptions and assumes it’s ‘best’ I block him. Man you’re stupid.
