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- 9 days
To make AI morally good, turn over the tech to the public from which its training data was stolen. Dissolve companies, imprison the heads who orchestrated the theft. That would be a start.
8 daysTraditionally Catholicism has never been even slightly compatible with Socialism. Except that one time in the 1930s/40s. And that wasn’t really socialism.
- OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish9 days
Yeah … about the worst AI apocalypse I could imagine is an AI that’s been trained on religious texts as its basis of morality, so it then starts enforcing literal interpretations upon the entire world.
Honestly, I’d prefer a paperclip maximizer.
- 9 days
All religion
It’s too broad of a statement. Could you tell us where’s the “immorality” for, say, Wicca or Hermeticism?
The truly held belief in magical things is dangerous to all of us sadly. Just look at the new age/yoga mom to Qanon pipeline.
To be fair, I’d take a Wiccan or the like over an adherent of the Abrahamic faiths every day, and twice on Sunday.
The truly held belief in magical things is dangerous to all of us sadly. Just look at the new age/yoga mom to Qanon pipeline.
Again, that’s a statement taking an exception (individuals from specific branches of “new age spirituality”) and extrapolating it to all Pagan faiths, ignoring how there are cases in which the opposite pipeline happens.
Also, the OC’s wording, the use of the adjective “immoral” for “all religions” (which includes non-Abrahamic faiths), is what triggered me and further led me to my earlier comment, because I live in a mostly-christian country, Brazil, where there’s recurring religious intolerance from many (notice I’m try to avoid the “all” generalization) evangelical churches against Quimbanda and other Afro-Brazilian faiths, the Romani people, and other non-Abrahamic faiths, with practitioners from such faiths being mocked, ostracized, even physically harmed and killed by intolerant evangelicals… and this very word, “immoral”, is the argument such evangelicals often use to “justify” their attacks, as I myself grew tired of hearing this same wording from in-person evangelicals regarding my Lilith-centered belief; statements such as “The devil makes you commit «sins» [a broad umbrella word for anything said evangelicals don’t like, including but not limited to, Gender Affirmation, with me having discovered and became very fond of my Queer me thanks to Lilith], that’s immoral”…
As a nearly lifelong atheist who was raised by an abusively religious Catholic and lapsed Jew who never met a scrap new age nonsense she didn’t immediately graft into her personality, I about I have an exceptionally dim view of all forms of magical thinking. Even more to the point, my mother left me with lifelong issues by intentionally ignoring the effects of a severe TBI I received as a child.
That said, I am at best indifferent to the panoply of paganistic creeds. I view them as the absolutely least dangerous of this spectrum.
- 8 days
Look it’s great that you’ve got some imaginary being in your head that has helped you accept yourself as you are.
It’s honestly great and I’m sorry that you grew up in a very religious society which can be intolerant of behavior that does not conform to tradition. Do you think that this upbringing could be the reason that you want the blessing of an imaginary* being, one that you can tell yourself is superior to humans, especially those who have hurt you?
* By imaginary, I mean only existing in your mind, otherwise invisible, leaving no clear trace in the physical world. For religious people, these attributes make that being special, and full of potential. Think of what such a being could know or accomplish, unrestricted as it is by the laws of our mundane everyday reality! But for non-religious, can you not see that these same qualities make such beings irrelevant, and even dangerous, because we can create them as we want them, and use them to justify our own shitty behaviour? This is where the concern about immorality comes from - the abdication of responsibility for one’s own beliefs and actions.
- 9 days
A lot of people are shitty people and need the threat of someone always watching them to behave.
Or to make people pay up for empty promises?
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ablassbrief - English: Letter of Indulgence
- 9 days
Every time I hear AI and religion mentioned in the same sentence, “Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind”, comes to mind…
- 9 days
LOL. AI is already a religion. Completely made up bullshit. It’s just another con. Tell AI all your secrets, just like a priest/minister. So many promises that never come true. It’s a huge scam.
- 9 days
Eh? I have several “vibe coded” firmware projects under my belt now. No one’s found a bug yet.
That aspect of AI works.
- 8 days
Because religion has such a strong history of producing morally good outcomes?
- 9 days
The worst people I’ve known in my life were religious (Christian). I truly believe they like the idea they’re forgiven no matter how bad their actions, all they have to do is accept Jesus Christ as their personal savior! Now they’re free to run riot and their afterlife is just fine and dandy. Sorry, that ain’t moral.
- 9 days
I think that’s my least favorite brand of Christian. Ignore all the sheep and goats, good Samaritan, give to the poor, parts to be smug little shits.
Great, we’re going to indoctrinate AI into bigotry too. We live in a society
- 8 days
To be fair, some of those other AIs were Muslim, they had no choice but to launch the strike!
- borkborkbork@piefed.socialEnglish8 days
flooding random message boards looking for the faithful, launching ddos’s on their enemies… hrmm… not seeing how this is different than analog religion
- 9 days
I dunno. Jesus built my hotrod and there was only one thing I could do, and that was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long.
I can’t really see him doing a better job with AI.
- humorlessrepost@lemmy.worldEnglish8 days
Have these people never watched Battlestar Galactica? Religious zealotry is the last thing we need AI to have!
Earlier this year, Sullivan went to Anthropic for one of their meetings, which included Christians from different denominations.
Pardon me while I go burn my cat at the stake. It knows too much and won’t obey me. A big tech chatbot said that that is the moral thing to do and it will also set an example for Dog.
