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Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldbyQuantumEraser@fedia.io
15 days

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    • inari@piefed.zipEnglish
      15 days

      xkcd 221

        • Victor@lemmy.world
          15 days

          I thought this has to have been the reference

            • SlurpingPus@lemmy.world
              14 days

              Alas, the reference is real life.

                • Victor@lemmy.world
                  14 days

                  wtf 🫢️

                  • grrgyle@slrpnk.net
                    14 days

                    Oh my God, when I heard about this I figured some super computer was out there breaking encryption, but nope.

              • TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world
                15 days

                public key: 4

                secret key

                also 4

                  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
                    15 days

                    hash salt? Believe it or not, also 4

                      • ZeroCool@piefed.caEnglish
                        15 days

                        We have the strongest security in the world because of 4

                      • tias@discuss.tchncs.de
                        15 days

                        Fun fact: most implementations actually always use 65537 as the public RSA key (17 was more common earlier, but rare now). It makes computations easier and faster, and doesn’t affect security much as long as you pick a hard-to-guess private key. The modulus is the thing that varies in public certificates.

                          • zener_diode@feddit.org
                            15 days

                            This is only partially true.

                            RSA public keys consist of two parts:

                            1. The exponent e, which is usually 65537, for the reasons you described.
                            2. The modulus n, the product of the two primes used for generating an RSA keypair.

                            If the public key were always completely the same, then there would be no point in making different private keys.

                            • spankysalmon@fedinsfw.appEnglish
                              15 days

                              Isn’t RSA wholly deprecated for like… years by now?

                              Oh looked it up. It’s ssh-rsa that’s deprecated because of SHA-1, and NIST wants to phase out RSA-2048 by 2030.

                          • rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                            15 days

                            Everyone uses all these huge numbers, so no one is expecting 4. What could go wrong?

                              • Ignotum@lemmy.world
                                14 days

                                “we’ll brute force it, but to save some time we’ll start at 5 since noone would ever be stupid enough to use a number smaller than that”

                              • humorlessrepost@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                15 days

                                My codebase requires guids, so I used 00000000-0000-4000-0000-000000000000

                                  • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
                                    15 days

                                    You bonehead! You should have just run a Fourier transform on it.

                                    https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2013-02-01

                                      • SlurpingPus@lemmy.world
                                        14 days

                                        Not to be mistaken with furry transfem.

                                          • Skullgrid@lemmy.world
                                            14 days

                                            Your browser does not support playing HTML5 video. You can download the file instead.

                                      • eestileib@sh.itjust.works
                                        14 days

                                        • Ginny [they/she]@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                                          14 days

                                          This is extremely dumb and stupid, and it made me laugh harder than anything else has in days. Thanks, OP!

                                            • QuantumEraser@fedia.io
                                              14 days

                                              Happy to hear you enjoyed it (though full disclosure I did steal it)

                                            • story@lemmy.zip
                                              15 days

                                              my college roommate made this joke in 2009, complete with the ‘4’

                                              i still don’t get it lol

                                                • usernamesAreTricky@lemmy.ml
                                                  15 days

                                                  Uh roommate must have predicted the future because this is about a private key for a certificate authority using the number “4” as their whole private key recently. As well as a couple other low digit numbers

                                                  https://arstechnica.com/security/2026/10/the-internet-goes-on-high-alert-after-discovery-of-8-compromised-tls-certs/

                                                  EDIT: your roommate might have been talking about this XKCD comic https://xkcd.com/221/

                                                    • story@lemmy.zip
                                                      15 days

                                                      yes! i think so! he was the one who introduced me to xkcd!

                                                    • TragicNotCute@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                      15 days

                                                      I gotcha bud.

                                                      It’s a riff on the olive meme.

                                                      https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/hungry-but-too-tired-to-cook-try-30-to-40-olives

                                                      256 bit and 512 bit encryption are somewhat common. A 256 bit private key is 64 characters long (I’m simplifying this, don’t @ me about it being hex). A 512 bit private key is twice as long. That long string of random characters is what gives this type of encryption its power. It’s essentially unguessable, even with a computer and a lot of time.

                                                      Using “4” as your private key would significantly undermine security. Hackers can’t check every possible option for a 512 bit key, but they can certainly (and trivially) try simple numbers padded by 0’s, like our “4” private key.

                                                      You’ve taken a strong and proven system and made it trivially weak. That’s the joke. It’s not that funny, but that’s what you’re missing.

                                                      Hope that helps.

                                                    • ジン@quokk.auEnglish
                                                      14 days

                                                      Pls help, everyone keeps telling me to update all the things because someone worships 4 or something.
                                                      What is going on for the ppl who don’t know networking?

                                                        • Rob T Firefly@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                          14 days

                                                          Basically, when choosing a private encryption key - normally a long string of random characters - in a crucial place for widespread Internet security, some knob just used “4”.

                                                          https://www.theregister.com/security/2026/10/20/indian-certification-authority-emudhras-private-keys-compromised-one-of-them-was-the-number-4/5304312

                                                            • dev_null@lemmy.ml
                                                              14 days

                                                              What you say is extremely unlikely. No one decided to use 4.

                                                              Either the system they had for generating the key was broken, or they accidentally used a test key for a real system.

                                                                • Rob T Firefly@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                  14 days

                                                                  I think I reworded my post just as you posted that correction, with which I agree.

                                                            • kettuli@lemmy.blahaj.zone
                                                              15 days

                                                              Sounds legit, thanks for the tip.

                                                              • rounding_error@lemmy.today
                                                                15 days

                                                                Mr president, another script has hit the certificate authority

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