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2 days

Elon Musk has just shown why Trump and the US are now the enemy within

www.independent.co.uk English

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    Trump’s moves against Ukraine – including a diesel deal with Putin and a row over restricting Starlink – mean he must now be seen as a hostile force in Europe, explains world affairs editor Sam Kiley
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    • Malica@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1 day

      Trusting the USA will go down as one of Europe’s biggest mistakes this century.

      • betanumerus@lemmy.caEnglish
        1 day

        Elon Musk has supported, and still is, supporting trump’s election campaigns. Musk cannot shift the blame away from himself.

        • tigermountain@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1 day

          Just shown my ass. This has been obvious for years.

          • darthsundhaft@piefed.socialEnglish
            2 days

            Elon Musk again showing why we should release the Epstein Files, snatch up all the billionaires in the country, and either send them down the ocean via submarine or just plain old drop them off in some deserted island blindfolded and let them kill themselves off.

              • zbyte64@awful.systemsEnglish
                2 days

                Now that would be a reality TV show I might watch

                  • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                    1 day

                    Give them a hundred dollars in tradeable items per Billion they had. Then watch them Duke it all out. Would be interesting to see who lives like a king on the island and who get subjugated.

                      • zbyte64@awful.systemsEnglish
                        17 hours

                        The idea of rewarding their ill gotten gains has me thinking it should be a running man type show and the distance from the finish line is 1 mile for every billion

                    • orbitz@lemmy.caEnglish
                      2 days

                      The files he’s in that he begs to become a member of the exclusive club? Yes we should release them. Fucking douche turd…huh wonder what the best way to combine those two words as an insult. Oh well I’ll use it if someone can think of it. Tudush is my best but there’s a lreason I’m not a writer.

                      • aceshigh@lemmy.worldEnglish
                        2 days

                        Are you trying to make titen a trend?

                      • Akasazh@lemmy.worldEnglish
                        2 days

                        The Hitler salute wasn’t clear enough a message?

                          • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                            2 days

                            Two Hitler salutes on stage at the US Presidential Inauguration

                            It’s amazing how easily it was for them to make that go away. Disturbing how nobody fucking cares.

                              • Tattorack@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                14 hours

                                Dude, half the people I spoke with don’t believe it’s a nazi salut.

                                • 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                  1 day

                                  That’s what happens when billionaires own the media

                                  • EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.appEnglish
                                    2 days

                                    People won’t even leave twitter ☹️

                                      • ElDuderino@lemmus.orgEnglish
                                        1 day

                                        Is that true? I thought twitter was pretty much just fascists and hookers nowadays.

                                          • EmilieEasie@fedinsfw.appEnglish
                                            1 day

                                            Yeah, unfortunately. I still routinely run into big artists and stuff that either keep twitter along side bluesky or are only on Twitter still.

                                        • Jarix@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                          2 days

                                          The people who care, and there are millions of them, mostly already held the appropriate opinion of them.

                                          It’s amazing how many don’t care, but again we already knew they were shit people and it isn’t a surprise that those people are entirely okay with it until they are personally affected by it all (specifically their wallet)

                                          What’s amazing is how many millions of people aren’t offing themselves due to the futility of holding onto their beliefs after decades of trying to advocate for a better world

                                          • ZC3rr0r@piefed.caEnglish
                                            2 days

                                            Two recorded salutes. Like, we have it on video from multiple sources.
                                            And yet, he gets to have the fucking ADL run cover for him. It’s disgusting what you get away with if you’re rich enough to either make people eat their words, or they self-censor to avoid possible fallout.

                                            • Anti_Iridium@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                              2 days

                                              If the organization I’m with ends up trying to get backup internet, I will play that on a loop on every device I have available if anyone tries to get it through Starlink.

                                          • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.todayEnglish
                                            2 days

                                            Trump, Musk and the rest of the epstein class are the chosen representatives of conservatives. They accurately represent all conservatives. Conservatives are the enemy within.

                                              • mefisdo_dot_info@lemmy.caEnglish
                                                2 days

                                                Conservatism is a brain defect. It is the lack of internal moral compass. Therefore the appeal of external power structures that supposedly uphold the morals. They understand that morals are important for societal cohesion but cannot comprehend how morals are possible without external powers enforcing it. And then of course just fingers crossed that that external power – dear Leader, the church, God – is benevolent. Moreover, playing this system is seen as cleverness, as “it’s part of the rules”, therefore morally okay. Moreover, they think that anyone opposing external power structures as a surrogate for moral compass actually is trying to abolish any morals. Playing the structure is fine, removing it is immoral, according to them. It is a brain defect, amd people suffering from it should be put under guardianship. About half the population.

                                                  • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.todayEnglish
                                                    1 day

                                                    Your solution is substantially more humane than mine.

                                                    • alphabethunter@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                      1 day

                                                      I really like this interpretation of it.

                                                      • Dallimjp@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                                        2 days

                                                        Holy shit that was well written!

                                                    • T00l_shed@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                      2 days

                                                      Not “just shown” they have been showing it all along

                                                        • UpAndAtThem@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                          2 days

                                                          Absolutely. ‘Quick they lost the benefit of the doubt again, let’s make up a new doubt for them to enjoy the benefit of.’ Not how this shit should work.

                                                            • 🌸𝓯𝓵𝓸𝔀𝓮𝓻🌸@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                                              2 days

                                                              And by doing this sort of shit people now see the media as an enemy within, or a cheerleader of the enemy at a minimum.

                                                          • Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.caEnglish
                                                            2 days

                                                            Uhh…rest of the world has known for an embarrassingly long time m’dude.

                                                              • Stormy@thelemmy.clubEnglish
                                                                2 days

                                                                Most of the US has known for awhile too.

                                                                  • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
                                                                    2 days

                                                                    Most of the US has known for awhile too.

                                                                    If it really was “most”, the USA wouldn’t be in the situation it currently finds itself in.

                                                                      • Stormy@thelemmy.clubEnglish
                                                                        1 day

                                                                        Low voter turn out and interference by musk and other rich fucks.

                                                                        It was only like 28% or something that voted for him.

                                                                          • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
                                                                            1 day

                                                                            I also blame people who didn’t put into he effort to vote against Trump.

                                                                            Yes there was some effort at voter suppression, but that was known and motivated people could have easily got past it if they cared enough to do so.

                                                                              • RFKJrsBrainworm@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                                                                1 day

                                                                                Every single attempt to suppress voters should be an offence with jail time, not a viable political strategy for the dumbest of Nazis

                                                                      • Cheebus@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                        2 days

                                                                        Service members: You defend the constitution against foreign AND DOMESTIC threats

                                                                        you’re betraying your oath

                                                                          • Stormy@thelemmy.clubEnglish
                                                                            2 days

                                                                            The military has been gutted of the ethical. Hegseth made sure of it. The worst commanders, and 1st sargents made sure of it.

                                                                            You can’t count on them.

                                                                            • ZC3rr0r@piefed.caEnglish
                                                                              2 days

                                                                              It’s an oath upheld through force to begin with, and if the authority doing the upholding is compromised the oath itself becomes mere spectacle.

                                                                              Unless the people actually hold oath-breakers individually accountable, relying on the compromised military leadership or the compromised courts won’t do shit.

                                                                            • leave_it_blank@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                              2 days

                                                                              “Now”…

                                                                                • StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                  2 days

                                                                                  Thank you. The headline seems to ignore the rest of the last 8 decades.

                                                                                • freagle@lemmy.mlEnglish
                                                                                  2 days

                                                                                  Enemy within what? It has always been the case that the US will destroy its proxies, whether they win or lose the objective they were manipulated for

                                                                                  • Repple (she/her)@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                    2 days

                                                                                    “The Enemy Within” is a good episode of Star Trek, and a good episode of Stargate. Why is it such a terrible fucking episode for the US?

                                                                                      • SabinStargem@lemmy.todayEnglish
                                                                                        2 days

                                                                                        The US was always a shit show. Change the channel?

                                                                                          • Radical_Socialist_t00t@lemmy.caEnglish
                                                                                            2 days

                                                                                            I’m thinking we should terminate that channel

                                                                                        • banana69696969@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                                          2 days

                                                                                          The rest of the world: ‘yeah, we’ve been saying that since about 1953.’

                                                                                            • HubertManne@piefed.socialEnglish
                                                                                              2 days

                                                                                              rest of the world and most sane folks in the us.

                                                                                            • stumu415@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                                                              2 days

                                                                                              As I stated before, let Mexico and Canada pay for a wall. Close of the US from the rest of the world, which is now happening organically anyways, and check in a decade or so. The less shit comes out of that place, the better humanity will progress.

                                                                                              • Ceruleum@lemmy.wtfEnglish
                                                                                                2 days

                                                                                                Always has been.

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