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- FishFace@piefed.socialEnglish2 days
Datacentres have been potential targets for years. I remember some analysis from early in the war on Ukraine about targets in Western countries. Datacentres are vitally important for the economy, because of the businesses which are actually hosted there but also because of the infrastructure which supports other businesses.
Nowadays it seems like everyone thinks data centres are just running ChatGPT, but that is very stupid. This thread is hosted on lemmy.world’s servers in one of hetzner’s datacentres. OP’s account is on feddit.org in a datacentre in Vienna.
Your country’s banking system probably relies on datacentres. Your supermarkets probably rely on datacentres to get deliveries into stores. All your broadcast/streaming entertainment uses datacentres.
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Very little negative impact on the average person, low staff numbers, frees up water and electricity for the people. Personally, I can’t think of a better target.
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Where do you think the internet exists? Where do you think Lemmy exists?
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Where do you think Lemmy exists?
Hosted in a bunch of random linux enthusiasts’ home labs.
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What percentage do you think accounts for that? Sure, some instances, but the largest absolutely are indatacenters.
But it’s a distraction. You ready to grow your own food? Immediately? Because losing datacenters means losing credit/debit cards. No cash because banks can’t connect to each other. No deliveries to stores. Society would literally fucking collapse.
But all these fucking idiots can do is ignorantly chant “destory all datacenters” because they don’t fucking know what they’re talking about.
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Do… you not realize that Hetzner is one of the larger server providers in existence? They have multiple datacenters because of all the servers - in multiple countries.
wooossshh yep and thus you would be the one in this discussion to disappear. The rest of us will continue just fine on other communities.
It’s never a good idea to choose the largest instance in the fediverse.
- FishFace@piefed.socialEnglish2 days
that slrpnk.net one is clearly describing something larger than a basement operation.
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Idiots keep saying “destroy all datacenters” and then comments like yours not keeping up with any sense of context.
- Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish3 days
I’m ok with Amazon’s data centers going down too. The internet has grown far too centralized anyway.
It’s wild that the Internet was designed to be decentralized, then…
Corporate response: “Let’s get rid of all our on-prem stuff and put it in the same place as everyone else”.
It’s corporations. Corporations did this.
Corporations would always rather responsibility be taken on by other parties. Here it is managing their servers.
Once upon a time, a huge number of internet sites were on-premises. Then centralization became cheaper and companies said “fuck that”.
You see it now with research institutions going cloud computer…
That’s take down Reddit and a whole host of other websites and know what, I’m for it. Teach these fucks a lesson on building up actual redundancy or diversification.
OH NOSE!
Not muh corporate internet!
We’d all be better off with less of it.
They are worth billions of dollars in hardware and are at the center of propaganda. No brainer.
- FishFace@piefed.socialEnglish2 days
It’s not really about propaganda, but economic damage. If you destroy enough datacentres, you’ll destroy a country’s economy.
- kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish2 days
In previous wars (and coups and other military interventions) the communication infrastructure has always been a target.
Phone systems and broadcasters have always been aware that they’re among the first things an attacking enemy would target.
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They are already bought through third parties, the only services that would agree to insure them are probably also russian
They always were, just now we’re seeing physical attacks on them instead of cyberattacks.
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Maybe one day we’ll destroy them all, then we can finally go outside again.
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You can choose to stop using the internet at any time.
Except you really can’t unless you’re ok being a lonely hermit.
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No, you really can go outside any time. Having a kid has reminded me how true that is.
Sure he says he wants to play Minecraft all day, but it turns out, when you force him to do something else… Seeing friends and moving around at soccer practice is also fun. Spending the whole day mountain biking is also fun. Going camping is also fun. Going swimming is also fun. And just about all of these activities lead to feeling more connected to the people you, not less.
Sitting in front of a device will always feel easier, but it is not definitively better, it is not just the way things are now. The modern world does have new things, but it also still has the old things, and many of them are great.
So all that said, I vote blow all the data centers up.
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Go to a bar or some other place where people are social, you’ll find that you can talk to people without using the internet.
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Go to a bar and your neat little cards in your pocket? They won’t work without the internet. The bar will doon run out of tasty drinks because they can’t get deliveries anymore. And go to the bank to get some cash to use? Also fails without the interconnections that run across the internet.
All these twits saying to remove every datacenter are ignorant of the world. Wildly and proudly ignorant.
Or maybe maybe they don’t give a damned? It’s entirely possible for someone to think moving away from the current overly centralized and vulnerable internet based infrastructure is worth whatever damage is done. Personally I don’t want the Internet to die but frankly speaking if every major data center was wiped out and replaced with more localized entity owned ones I wouldn’t complain.
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Do try to remember the context of the conversation please.
Network Engineer here with work on data centers.
Lets fucking go
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Dude carrys his wrench around the data center tightening nuts and bolts for improved performance.
- KulunkelBoom@lemmus.orgEnglish3 days
Excellent! Hopefully the war on terror also! Because data centers are capitalistic terrorism.
