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Father Throws Chair at judge after Driver who Killed his Family got 120 Hours of Community Service

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cross-posted from: https://programming.dev/post/57614897

https://metro.co.uk/2014/11/22/father-throws-chair-at-judge-after-absurdly-low-sentence-for-driver-who-killed-his-daughter-4958142/

https://www.dutchnews.nl/2015/09/appeal-court-jails-driver-for-killing-couple-and-grandchild/

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    • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.caEnglish
      17 hours

      The motorist killed the toddler and her 67 and 64-year-old grandparents instantly when he went off the road at 75mph in a 50mph zone.

      yeah, fuck you. you lost control while speeding and you killed people as a direct result.

      straight to prison, do not pass go, loss of license for five years when you get out with mandatory training before relicensing, plus restitution to the family.

        • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish
          17 hours

          And deserves to be in a cell with Big Beautiful Bill.

        • red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          1 day

          And now the father will get a harsher sentence than the killer?

            • FatVegan@leminal.spaceEnglish
              17 hours

              Shoul’ve just waited and run her over with a car. 3 people gets you 120 hours, one surely only gives you 40

              • OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish
                24 hours

                Obviously.

                  • zqps@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                    20 hours

                    Should have thrown a car

                      • OwOarchist@pawb.socialEnglish
                        20 hours

                        Yeah, then he’d be fine, as long as he has insurance coverage and doesn’t flee the scene.

                    • Linda R@nord.pubEnglish
                      18 hours

                      The killer got 15 months in jail. Impossible to imagine somebody would get 15 months of jail for throwing a chair at a judge. So, almost surely not.

                        • Mr_WorldlyWiseman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                          17 hours

                          Not until after the chair was thrown.

                            • Linda R@nord.pubEnglish
                              17 hours

                              If that affects it at all, it decreases the punishment the father will get. If the ruling had immediately been 15 months, the throwing would have been much less justified and whatever punishment he gets would be therefore harsher.

                        • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                          1 day

                          That’s really crazy! Only 120 hours community service?

                          Does anyone know the details of what actually happened?

                          edit

                          I didn’t see the link to what happened at first.

                          The motorist killed the toddler and her 67 and 64-year-old grandparents instantly when he went off the road at 75mph in a 50mph zone.

                            • BillyClark@piefed.socialEnglish
                              23 hours

                              If I were the killer in that situation, not that I ever would be, I would actually want to be given a harsher sentence than that. Because what we just witnessed in that video is the creation of a vigilante. When the government won’t seek justice for people whose lives are completely ruined, those people will seek justice themselves, and I don’t want to receive that sort of justice.

                                • Linda R@nord.pubEnglish
                                  18 hours

                                  The good thing is, as the second link in the post says, the driver eventually did get a jail sentence of over one year.

                                    • Agrivar@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                      15 hours

                                      Still no where near long enough of a sentence.

                                    • neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                                      22 hours

                                      I’m always a bit nervous when driving in cities that someone will jump in front of my car on purpose to get hit and scam me.

                                      When I first saw this sentencing I wondered if that was what happened and it went wrong.

                                      But clearly the system is just broken to only get such a small offense. I wonder if the defendant is related to someone powerful.

                                    • VonReposti@feddit.dkEnglish
                                      20 hours

                                      I think they finally fixed it in Denmark. That would be called hazardous driving and someone just got 4 years for killing someone due to it. The sentence was reduced since he showed remorse, could have gone all the way up to 10 years.

                                        • TRock@feddit.dkEnglish
                                          19 hours

                                          Er det under vanvidskørsel loven?

                                            • VonReposti@feddit.dkEnglish
                                              19 hours

                                              Artikel

                                              Det er flettet ind i straffeloven:

                                              § 241. Den, som uagtsomt forvolder en andens død, straffes med bøde eller fængsel indtil 4 måneder eller under særligt skærpende omstændigheder med fængsel indtil 10 år. Er forholdet begået i forbindelse med spirituskørsel, overtrædelse af færdselslovens § 54, stk. 1 eller 2, særligt hensynsløs kørsel eller de groveste hastighedsovertrædelser, anses dette som en særligt skærpende omstændighed.

                                          • Pomal@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
                                            1 day

                                            Ethics complaints, ethics complaints everywhere. This is beyond unacceptable.

                                          • arsCynic@piefed.socialEnglish
                                            23 hours

                                            The verdict is not only distasteful, but complicit in future tragedies.

                                            • zaubentrucker@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                                              23 hours

                                              Well the verdict has been appealed an the driver has been jailed now.

                                              Calm down

                                                • asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                  20 hours

                                                  The new verdict is still unbelievably unjust. And even if it were acceptable, we should be just as pissed at this judge and the system.

                                                  • fantacyde@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                                    17 hours

                                                    Could have done without the calm down. It doesn’t make right how the judge made such an absurd judgement the first go round. We will be calm if stupid ‘punishments’ aren’t dished out in the first place. And if people became more responsible in the death boxes on the roadways.

                                                    • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                      22 hours

                                                      Who are you telling to calm down? Surely not the father.

                                                        • zaubentrucker@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                                                          21 hours

                                                          No I am talking to readers and the comments around me.

                                                          I’d obviously not have said that to the father.

                                                            • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                              21 hours

                                                              I figured as much, just making sure. 😅 All good, my friend.

                                                                • zaubentrucker@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                                                                  21 hours

                                                                  Ah, I see now how my comment can be read as a direct reply to the video :0

                                                                  I’ll specify in an edit

                                                          • 20cello@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                            1 day

                                                            Most of judges are merely tools nowadays, laws are compromised, we need to revolt

                                                              • Linda R@nord.pubEnglish
                                                                18 hours

                                                                Well, in this case the next level of the court system did increase the sentence to over one year of jail. As should be.

                                                              • FinjaminPoach@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                1 day

                                                                In the Netherlands as well it’s fucking egregious. This is a country which places exceptionally high standards on driver behaviour and has, for decades, had a concerted effort to discourage car use full stop.

                                                                • FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.worldEnglish
                                                                  17 hours

                                                                  Bummer that the judge didn’t take the chair square in the temple.

                                                                  • Carrots@quokk.auEnglish
                                                                    1 day

                                                                    Removed by mod

                                                                      • just2look@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                                        1 day

                                                                        Nothing in this video has anything to do with America…

                                                                          • november@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                                                            1 day

                                                                            Removed by mod

                                                                              • just2look@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                                                1 day

                                                                                So maybe comments about school shooters don’t belong on a thread about someone killing a child and their grandparents with a car…

                                                                                  • november@piefed.blahaj.zoneEnglish
                                                                                    1 day

                                                                                    This person’s implication was that somebody should shoot that judge.

                                                                                    (It’s not my opinion, but clearly I have to spell it out for you since you missed it.)

                                                                                      • just2look@lemmy.zipEnglish
                                                                                        1 day

                                                                                        I get the implication. I am just fairly certain they didn’t watch the video or read the corresponding linked articles. So their comment makes them seem lazy or stupid since they couldn’t even be bothered to pay attention to what they commented on.

                                                                                        Shoehorning unrelated shit into this isn’t clever.

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