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- 2 days
The reason people assumed this was the case was that statistically the more money or influence you have the more conservative you become, and for most generations you were able to build savings or property or status slowly as you got older. This stopped being true with milenials.
Somewhat related observation: gen-Z entering the work force right now are highly radical because even while actively working multiple jobs theyre actually losing wealth and are percieved as entirely disposable by employers no matter how long or hard they work.
- 2 days
Gen Z dude who has largely been pushed from the labor market but is lucky enough to have kin willing to support me. I fucken hate corporations so much, just let me work in the back room I’ll get everything done proper your hiring offices vibe check is worthless.
4 daysI remember when my ex-sister-in-law told me this verbatim. I was enraged.
She’s backed off of that sentiment ten years later now that she’s seen what her votes have gained. But I won’t forget.
- 4 days
Some people do. Also long term constant propaganda machines wear people down. It isn’t hard to find people who pointed out Vietnam was bad but then supported Iraq or such. The number of people who supported the idea of setting up a universal healthcare system when voting for Obamas campaign, then also voted for Trump in 2024 is non zero.
Thankfully it isn’t everyone, otherwise I think our suicide rates would grow even larger with people realizing they don’t want to live in a world where they don’t give a fuck about anyone but theirself.
- 3 days
You usually become more fiscally conservative though because you have decades of savings, home, car, etc that you’ve worked for.
- Refract@lemmy.caEnglish3 days
Sure but like… I want higher taxes to fund transit, school and basic income for everyone.
- Duamerthrax@lemmy.worldEnglish2 days
And I want lower taxes because they’re just used to fund wars and corporate bailouts.
- whalesnrainbows@lemmy.worldEnglish2 days
If only there was a way we could satisfy both your desire and knoxvomica’s desire simultaneously
- 2 days
Taxes are fine as long as they aren’t regressive (sales), the spending is monitored/audited and the taxes are reevaluated occasionally to see if they still make sense.
- AreaKode@riskeratspizza.comEnglish4 days
I’m definitely less liberal. Now I’m an anarchist, leftist, socialist. They were right!
- 3 days
I grew up hearing, “a person should be liberal in their youth, otherwise they have no passion; and conservative as an adult, otherwise they have no sense.”
I’m in my late forties and still think it’s as much bullshit as I thought it was as a teen.
- Iunnrais@piefed.socialEnglish4 days
That only works when people are able to successfully find a comfortable place in the system, then the urge to say “fuck you, got mine” grows more and more, making conservatism increasingly likely. But when the system breaks and multiple entire generations stop getting theirs, FUGM stops being a possible option— you ain’t got any to say got mine about.
Accumulated lead poisoning over decades also helps contribute to an increase in likelihood of conservatism as a person ages. Perhaps even more substantially than what I said before.
- 3 days
I grew up in a conservative Catholic middle class family. Got a job at a conservative aerospace company right out of college. Worked there for 40 years. Retired last year as a senior manager. I’ve consistently become more liberal over those years; a lot of that in reaction to the grotesque form of conservatism that’s grown in America. In my 20s, it felt like a reasonable difference of opinion. Now, in my 60s, it feels like a level of cruelty that can’t be tolerated.
I’m personally fine financially (e.g., “I got mine”), but the system is wrong and needs to be changed. The wealth inequality makes me nauseous. Everyone should have a right to healthcare and a living wage.
My story is far from unique. Yes, there are the “I got mine” conservatives, but the ones I know were never very liberal. Lots of boomers like me both benefited from the system and consistently voted for more progressive policies because we could see it becoming more and more unfair.
- greenskye@lemmy.zipEnglish4 days
I have a pretty comfortable spot in the existing system and I’m even more left now than I was 20 years ago in college.
I wonder what the accumulated microplastics will do to us instead.
Downvote away but I’m still a fan of free markets. But that’s not really an option in my country, because our Libertarian party are actually neo-feudalists who think landowners deserve free rent. So my only real voting choice is for whichever anti-FPTP candidate is most popular. The party “closer” to my beliefs is actively working against them too.
Yep! Let’s repeal the Taft-Hartley Act and give it a fair chance.
- 🌸𝓯𝓵𝓸𝔀𝓮𝓻🌸@sh.itjust.worksEnglish3 days
You’re supposed to become more conservative as you gain a larger nest egg to conserve. When even a nest is out of range of affordability for most, these is no nest egg to be conservative about.
- Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.caEnglish3 days
Uh huh. And you old people picking up your social security, index linked pensions, subsidized healthcare are just so anti-socialism.
- Branch_Ranch@lemmy.worldEnglish3 days
50s here. I’ve only gotten more to the left than ever. At this rate, I’ll be an anarcho-communist by the mid terms!
- picnicolas@slrpnk.netEnglish4 days
As a child I went to this man’s Halloween show at the University of Puget Sound in Tacoma, WA where he was a professor of chemistry. Amazing show! Love seeing this meme.
- rekabis@lemmy.caEnglish3 days
I was always told I would become more conservative as I got older.
Joke’s on them. Actually understanding capitalism and conservatism and how politics are corrupted by money has bodily yeeted me so far left that I am two good shakes away from being an anachro-communist.
The real irony being that idealized “pure” democracy - fully participatory democracy where the people vote directly on policy, and politicians and most of the political apparatus no longer exists - is essentially political communism. All that remains are bureaucrats whose only job is to implement and coordinate the policies that the people vote for.
I haven’t become more conservative, i have become more dedicated to the values of my youth that weren’t misinformed. I have become a lot less blue-eyed about the world and people in general, while still thinking conservatives are all full of shit while constantly being on the brink of becoming full-blown nazis.
- minorkeys@sh.itjust.worksEnglish3 days
Only if you’ve never known the benefits of positive social experiences.
I can see people who’ve been hurt by groups, repeatedly, come to believe their safety and welfare lies in more individual power and less group power. I can understand becoming selfish if you’ve experienced the freedom of significant individual power.
I do not understand how someone can know billions of us exists and that we have to function as groups, suggest individual power, and less group power, is better for the future of everyone.
- fishy@lemmy.todayEnglish3 days
They’re just selfish pricks, plain and simple. Some people are just born without the same ability to empathize and never work on it or are put in situations to improve their ability.
