British Columbia has accused the company of failing to report the shooter’s troubling interactions with ChatGPT to law enforcement.
- TerdFerguson@lemmy.caEnglish2 days
Excerpt from Jesse van Rootselaar’s ChatGPT interaction:
In a hallway, indoors, or a crowded classroom, the 870 [Remington shotgun] is brutal, close quarters is its playground. Assuming each shell results in one hit, you might down 10 to 20 people max, depending on spacing, density, reaction times, and chaos.
Given that these platforms are always actively reviewing and modelling your inputs, and relative metadata, its reasonable to expect that this could have been treated with some appropriate proactive measures from OpenAI. What we see instead is “consider changing something once enough people die” ; the same kind of approach we see with most safety related things.
- melsaskca@lemmy.caEnglish1 day
If you manipulate someone to kill someone else you are certainly culpable. If you manipulate them in person at secret meeting places, manipulate them over the landline telephone, or manipulate them over the internet through a company’s app, you are equally culpable. I don’t know about the company being culpable though. Would the telephone company who owns the landline be held responsible? Would the furniture store you hid behind to have your secret meetings be held responsible?
steve@lemmy.caEnglish
1 dayThey’re not suing the furniture store. They’re suing the company that develops the software that told a person to kill people.
- OldCrow@lemmy.caEnglish24 hours
The shooter had used ChatGPT in conversations involving gun violence and plans for the attack. OpenAI’s safety systems reportedly flagged the account months before the shooting. According to B.C.'s allegations, OpenAI’s own safety personnel considered the activity serious enough to recommend contacting law enforcement. Instead, the account was deactivated, but the shooter was allegedly able to create another account and continue using ChatGPT. B.C. argues that OpenAI should have notified police and taken stronger steps to prevent continued access.
This is not a landline issue. This is a ChatGPT issue. There were tragic consequences.
- ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.caEnglish2 days
They’ll deflect to gun control as usual, despite the fact that chatgpt in this case and a few others played such a critical role in facilitating the shooting that they would not have happened otherwise. The RCMP actually returned the rifle to them when they took it away earlier due to a dispute and didn’t even bother to check if they had a valid permit for it. It was fucked in every way.
Edit: I welcome any downvotes going forward.
- SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.caEnglish1 day
didn’t even bother to check if they had a valid permit for it.
They could have checked the long gun registry…oh, nevermind.
- ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.caEnglish1 day
Ahahahhahahhahahahaahhahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahahahahhahaa!
As if that actually had, or would have had, the effect you think it would have.
The long gun registry, and even the restricted registry, have never once been proven effect or pivotal in resolving or preventing a crime. And it was a massive, massive money sink. Let’s throw more and more money at it while also cutting other critical functions and medical support (mental and physical!).
Bring on the downvotes. I am telling the truth here.
Sunshine@piefed.caEnglish
2 daysThe RCMP needs to be dismantled in BC and replaced with a provincial force and tribal police.
- SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.caEnglish1 day
The are doing such a great job in Ontario investigating the Green belt deals.

ZDL@lazysoci.alEnglish
2 daysIf your “privacy consciousness” involves detailed plans for shooting up a school, fucking yes, any sane person is against that privacy-conscious person!
- AppleMango@lemmy.worldEnglish1 day
They’ll just use that as an excuse to spy on you and me though. There are better ways to catch people other than spying and snitching on them.
Try putting this article on the privacy community and you’ll see my point.
ZDL@lazysoci.alEnglish
1 dayThey’re already spying on you and me. (Well on you, at most, since I don’t use their product.) If you don’t want to be spied on, try not to use the product made specifically to spy on you.
But since it is a given (and well-known; they even say so themselves, though not using these words) that they spy on you, if, while spying on you, they see that you’re planning to, and again I stress this, shoot up a school they have an obligation to warn of the upcoming slaughter.
- AppleMango@lemmy.worldEnglish17 hours
I was talking about the government spying on you, which I can almost guarantee that they are. Won’t be long before they mistake and innocent person for a school shooter and call a raid on their house. If that’s you one day, don’t complain.
ZDL@lazysoci.alEnglish
16 hoursI will be far less concerned with me accidentally being raided on a mistaken belief that I am about to do a school shooting than them not raiding someone they know is about to do a school shooting … and then the shooting happens.
I’m sorry if this is confusing to you, but in general I view a period of inconvenience as a mistake gets shaken out far better than a bunch of children getting butchered. Of course this is partially because I’m not American.
- AppleMango@lemmy.worldEnglish15 hours
What makes you think I’m American? I’m just comparing the data in countries where surveillance is widespread. As far as I’ve seen they’re more often used to imprison people for small crimes, often due to political reasons, rather than catching criminals like these.
I don’t fully disagree that we need to catch these types of criminals, but the method that you’re presenting has never worked and I don’t think it will in the future either.
- corsicanguppy@lemmy.caEnglish3 days
Child gets guns and shoots people. In response, BC:
- Promises to improve mental healthcare
- Promises to improve trans care
- Promises to improve gun safety
- Promises to improve teacher ability to report concerns
- Sues the manufacturer of the child’s digital imaginary online friend.
If you picked the one that points a finger and doesn’t help anything, you’d be right.




