Pavan Davuluri says the rising cost of memory is why Windows 11 will use less RAM, with work on the memory manager, WinUI 3 and WebView2.
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- skujcici7755@lemmy.zipEnglish7 days
You gotta wonder who’s spreading this constant meme about Windows 11. I suspect they have hard coded backdoors into linux
- crunchy@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish12 days
All it took was a RAM apocalypse for Microsoft ro consider improving performance in Windows. I’m seeing brand new laptops on display being sold as Windows 11 PCs with 4GB of RAM.
12 daysIt’s hard for the younger generation to understand, but 4 Gb of RAM is MORE than enough for 99% of tasks if your software isn’t written by lazy idiots.
WinXP ran quite nicely on 4GB of RAM. You could boot to the desktop in under 5 seconds if you had a solid state drive.
All the day to day tasks someone needs to do with their computers haven’t materially changed in the last twenty years since XP held the crown. In that time the speed of processors, storage, gpus, and ram has increased by literal orders of magnitude.
And yet, somehow, things have become much shittier since then.
Because what used to be a native application that used 200 mb of RAM now needs to be a web application built on top of a browser using 4 gb of RAM to do the exact same task.
I will honest to God pick fucking Eclipse over VS Code every single day, because at least it runs natively.
- sudoMakeUser@sh.itjust.worksEnglish12 days
My friend bought one of those, paired with I think 64gb of EMMC storage which is basically an SD card. It couldn’t browse the internet really with Edge in it’s default settings. I had to disable so much crap but I got it usable with Firefox.
- 12 days
It would probably run best with that really stripped down version of ChromeOS
Nah, with 4gb you can get away with most linux distros with XFCE, and you could even do some indie gaming. Plus, using ChromeOS means you’re expected to have a network connection at all times (which makes things like using office suites locally a pain).
- ouRKaoS@lemmy.todayEnglish12 days
I’ve ran Puppy Linux off a 8gb flash drive on a system w/ 2 gigs of ram. It was by no means good, but it worked good enough.
- blackshirt@lemmy.worldEnglish11 days
What a time to be alive.
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rising fuel prices push cooperations to make less hungry and more efficient vehicles.
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rising ram prices push cooperation to make less hungry and more efficient software
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Ah, my mistake, i missread. It “will” use less memory (like, maybe one day).
I recently had to configure an older Thinkpad X1 Carbon G8 for my little brother. It’s only got 8GB of RAM unfortunately and he needs Windows.
So I installed Windows 11 IoT LTSC like I usually do, installed all necessary drivers and manually deactivated services that don’t need to run. It still uses 3GB of RAM while idling.
My 2-year-old daily driver Manjaro install uses half of that, and that’s on a system with 32GB RAM where Windows would almost certainly use more just because there’s more
- schipelblorp@sh.itjust.worksEnglish12 days
Surface Pro owner asked if Microsoft would improve memory consumption, since they had to disable on-device AI services just to run a local model.
A cynic would say that customers disabling Copilot is finally what forced Microsoft’s hand.
- 12 days
I disable every single new feature from all non Foss vendors. Theyre ALWAYS shit. 99% of the time its a shitty ui change for no reason and now shitty ai thats useless for no reason.
Whatever happened to good software. They all went to Foss lol
Publicly traded company shareholders, baby!
Any project worth its salt is privately held or FOSS lol
- schipelblorp@sh.itjust.worksEnglish12 days
That’s why Valve/Steam holds the line. People think public corporations can choose not to be evil; they legally can, but it’s practically impossible. That’s why we need strong government and regulation.
- weps@lemmy.worldEnglish11 days
but I can rent ram, storage and computing from your datacenters right?
and I can use that for my economic productivity and get the rest for my free time and entertainment?
thank you lords
- eldebryn@lemmy.worldEnglish10 days
You bet your ass we’re gonna start seeing a bunch of “pc as a service” products hitting the market soon. Thin client with good wifi antennas and everything is just video streamed from infrastructure owned by Amazon for you to use like a good surf.
I’ll believe it when I see it. I mean, Windows has a lot of auto-loading bloatware that Microsoft could cut, but I really doubt they’ll actually have the balls to cut any of it.
- skujcici7755@lemmy.zipEnglish7 days
Which particular bloatware apps? You can turn things like DropBox off via start up apps menu
- some_guy@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish12 days
Was it because Win11 had a bunch of slopcoded Copilot bs? Inquiring minds want to know.
Bullshit, Windows 11 uses more ram than any other OS I know of. It idles an entire gigabyte higher than Windows 10, it’s still worse than MacOS although close, and it’s nowhere close to Linux Gnome, Headless, or even KDE Plasma.
- ryper@lemmy.caEnglish12 days
Yes, Windows 11 uses a lot of memory now. The point is that they’re working on making it use less.
