Nothing you said is wrong there, I’m just saying it sucks on our end too. It sucks that women would rather walk past a bear than me, purely because of the way I was born. Sucks that if I mention being upset about it I get told that “I’m the reason she picked the bear”. So much vitriol. I can handle it but I know lots of men can’t and end up in Andrew Tate’s lap. This entire thread is a perfect example. It’s not helping.

And I know you’re probably going to reply and say that women have it worse because they get raped, and you’re right, but it doesn’t make me feel any better the next time a woman gives me a wide berth in the park for no other reason than my gender.

I don’t think that’s fair to say at all. The image you posted is specifically about #notallmen.

This seems like an odd thing to say. Like it doesn’t matter if it’s true or not, just which “team” is saying it.

I’m personally at 0% risk of slipping into the manosphere, but can you see how this sort of talk would push somebody more vulnerable into it? All I’ve said is that men are treated differently because they’re suspected of being rapists and according to this thread I’m a) a conservative (nope) and b) part of the problem (i.e. I’m a rapist?). I’d never usually say anything because I know this is the way discussions always go, but I guess I was feeling ambitious today.

I just think it’s fair to be upset about being treated differently because of the way you were born. You can’t immediately start pigeonholing people if they show the slightest annoyance at being treated like a rapist.

“Society assumes you’re a rapist because you’re a man” is the message I think the parent comment is arguing against.

Trans-Exclusionary Radicals

They only react with cis isomeric alkenes?