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- Damarus@feddit.orgEnglish5 days
The article states that this thing costs $17 BILLION to build. A $1 million fine is less than a drop in a bucket here, that’s just giving the finger to the people.
- numpad@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
That’s like paying a 15 money fine while building a 250000 money house.
5 daysDepends on whether they look at the fine emotionally or logically. Logically it makes no difference. Emotionally so many billionaires HATE giving up any money that isn’t going to work for them.
- Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
Emotionally so many billionaires HATE giving up any money that isn’t going to work for them.
And even more see the fine as a cost of doing business, and has already been accounted for.
Until we start jailing these fucks and charging them double digit percent of gross revenue (not profit, straight up what they take in), they won’t learn anything more than to keep planning for the few bucks (comparatively) they have to pay to make 10000x that.
- Greyghoster@aussie.zoneEnglish5 days
They would like it less if it was $1m per day but even that if a tiny amount compared with the cost of the data centre.
- Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
Yeah, it would probably only take like half to a full decade or so for the $1m/day to equal the build cost of the datacenter (assuming ~$3b, that’s 8.2 yr)
- Greyghoster@aussie.zoneEnglish4 days
They say this data centre is $17b. It really makes you wonder where the revenue to pay for it comes from.
- Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish4 days
Oh, well in that case, it will only take ~47 years
It really makes you wonder where the revenue to pay for it comes from.
Easy answer, generations of stolen wealth being used to steal more
- HasturInYellow@lemmy.worldEnglish4 days
You know what they hate even more?
Watching their entire network of fellow billionaires lined up with them at the guillatine.
- willington@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish4 days
It’s like fining Epstein $100.
$500 million dollar fine.
All C level execs caned for 100 strokes publicly. Top investors guillotined in public.
That’s how you make this stop.
- 4 days
The government doesn’t want it to stop, it’s in their interests to keep it going.
- willington@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish4 days
$1mil fine sends a message “polluting is fine as long as you cut us, your friendly government, in on the graft.”
That may be fheir interest. I only care about my own interest in this case. I want all this billionaire leniency and apologetics to stop immediately.
Frankly the entire business community is begging to be disciplined. This is beyond just the billionaires. The entire business community is drinking some tainted water and is off the chain.
- njordomir@lemmy.worldEnglish4 days
I want so badly for an actual consumer and environmental agency to start laying down the law and shutting things down. I thought public opinion would reach the point of effecting change by now, but instead the sheep are just screaming “baaaaa” and the people who get it are vegging out to a YouTube video about how plastic is killing us or the risks of overfishing. Houseflies are less shortsighted and selfish than a distressing number of human beings. Props to the dedicated MVPs out there networking, shining a light on corruption, protesting environmental racism and classism, etc, especially the independent journalists.
- willington@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish4 days
The MVPs get to do what they do because there is enough buzz and energy going the same way in the trenches. You bet those MVPs are reading social media to check the temperature.
We are their environment.
- SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish4 days
No modern precedent in public awareness yet. Too much opposing precedent in praising and following wealth, power, faith, and confidence. Even if some judge DID push for something like this, and it DID take place, there would likely still be a MASSIVE violent social backlash. Not to say that’s not a good idea, because it is and that’s how you set precedence, but we either need to work our way there or you need somebody smart, powerful, and wise enough to do it without the resulting backlash ending up destructive to the goal of actually fixing it.
There’s no way it would be clean, but I guess we can all hope and just try to get through whatever happens. That’s evolution, eh?
- willington@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish4 days
Did you forget about Luigy?
Not only was there no backlash, the public was publicly celebrating. Also, United Healthcare was approving every claim for 6 months. Obviously this is the language of the Epstein class. They speak it and they understand it.
No, the public is ready. There is no problem with the public in this aspect at least.
- Tanis Nikana@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
One million is life changing for a petty human, but the cost of doing business for a data center.
- cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish5 days
The fine should be much bigger, the generators should be confiscated and any executives that approved it should be in jail.
- ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zipEnglish5 days
Each of those 62 unpermitted has generators probably cost more than that.
- 0tan0d@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
I opened the article see if the fine per generator or just a whoopsie fee. Oh. MY. god. They dont have to stop operating? Somehow inspectors missed 62 generator and pressure was needed for this? Its a midterm election this should be all over the local politics but thanks to oligarchy it’s going to be forgotten by monday.
- HasturInYellow@lemmy.worldEnglish4 days
People need to understand that there are going to have to be sacrifices for this to be stopped. Real sacrifices by people like you, the reader, or your friends who get out there and physically put a stop to this.
I know there are people doing it now. We need exponentially more.
Every bomb dropped on a data center is one less bomb for israel to drop on a Palestinian school.
- Blaster M@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
This is the real tragedy of the modern data center. In the rush to be number one, they’ve captured the government at the top and use their influence to bypass environmental regulation and pollute at a grand scale just to save a dollar and some construction time. We could have had datacenters running on solar+batteries that could easily make money powering the grid as well, but no, we need to feed the oil machine and we let them run burner turbines unregulated. We could have had datacenters running closed-loop cooling, but no, we let them draw water directly for their cooling systems and dump it unfiltered back into the environment, further polluting it with heavy metals.
As long as one man desires to have more riches than another, this will never be solveable, I’m afraid. The shame.
Nothing says »AI will build a cleaner, smarter future« quite like powering it with 62 unpermitted gas generators next to homes and schools. Microsoft gets the compute, DataOne gets a $1.07 million fine, and the neighbors get the exhaust. 🤷
- baines@lemmy.cafeEnglish4 days
the locals need to molotov that shit
it’s literal self defense at this point because government has failed
- heartSagan5@lemmy.zipEnglish4 days
A one million dollar fine? What a gas? That’s just the cost of doing business to them.
Not “slapped with”, more like “charged for”. Just the cost of doing business, The business of poisoning your community
- fritobugger2017@lemmy.worldEnglish4 days
In Mississippi and Louisiana this is allowed as long as the nearby neighborhoods are poor and/or non-white.
- 5 days
Nothing but (temporal) confiscation of land and hardware would frighten them enough.
- moustachio@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
And loss of freedom through jail time and fines to the people personally in charge
- 5 days
“One two thousand pound bamb could blow up this whole data center.”
- 4 days
It’s all just performative to make you think as if the government actually cares. The fine they receive is another kickback (bribe) for allowing the company to build the thing in the first place.
