• There is a surprisingly good amount of free games and movies, it would actually save me time if they were to “ban vpns”

  • 2 days

    Sounds like they want people board and mad, a historically winning combination.

  • This leads to the government deciding which websites you can visit and cant visit down the line. This is a dystopian level of control and with surveillance already getting dystopian… Pick your dystopian technology book and decide which one we’re leading towards. Fascism policies are already on the rise in democratic worlds.

  • political theater. won’t happen because it’s unenforceable.

    • VPNs operate outside of federal control
    • ISPs leverage DNS blocking to censor which is laughable
    • DNS exists outside of the US

    if this does happen, IF, it has nothing to do with IP rights or protecting Americans. it has everything to do with censoring what the majority of common Americans read online. this is the first step towards blocking news outlets that won’t regurgitate whitehouse directives.

    • I’m a bit surprised they’ve gone with piracy as an excuse - usually it’s “Think of the children!” Maybe they’ve finally figured out that we already know that republicans are thinking of (molesting) the children so they’ve fallen back on “You wouldn’t download a car”.

    • 3 days
      • ISPs leverage DNS blocking to censor

      And blocking the IP address of the site in question, as well. That’s why so many “illegal” sites jump around IP addresses like a flea on a hot griddle. They’re trying to remain accessible whenever the ISP prevents direct access.

      Because if you block the IP address, blocking DNS is superfluous and performative – it’s just window dressing for better optics towards politicians who don’t understand tech. DNS censorship trivially bypassible by using custom DNS servers that aren’t affected by the censorship, while IP blocking hits everyone who is under that ISP regardless of their DNS settings - they need a VPN to bypass IP blocking.

      • all that’s going to do is give them an excuse to block IPs outside the US by the block.

        keep an eye on the FCC and any legislation they take against HAM or SDR. without that it would be difficult to have any comms outside the US.

        • 3 days

          No, IP blocking is widespread in most places, it’s just that “rights holder” lawsuits go after the domain name, first, both in terms of the registrar and DNS. They also force ISPs to block IP addresses, but this is more of a whack-a-mole prospect so it’s usually a second-order method.

  • My ISP wondering why I only ever access 5 servers in Switzerland, Sweden, Denmark, Belgium and Finland

    • 4 days

      This doesn’t stem from a lack of understanding. It’s about corporations and control.

      • 4 days

        We need to stop believing the boomer’s framing that they’re all old and dumb, and start realizing that they’d eat us if we tasted good

          • Those cute sentient animals would eat us too if they were sapient. And we tasted good.

            • The difference is we pretend to be better than then, we know better and can usually do something about it.

              • 3 days

                Each half of that sentence is diametrically opposed to the other.

                • The thing that would make us better isn’t knowing; it’s doing. It makes sense to say that someone who knows better but behaves no better is literally no better.

                  Rationality is sensitivity and responsiveness to reasons, and plenty of folks are unresponsive to normative facts.

                  At least 70% of humans are just dangerously intelligent animals. Like imagine a polar bear that can drive and trade stocks. That’s the average person.

      • Can’t have those small-time AI startups gathering training data like the big boys do.

    • 4 days

      No, we’re at the point where the people pushing these laws do understand how the Internet works, and they want to control all of it.

  • And wouldn’t you know it, anything that disagrees with the current regime is piracy.

  • That’s the whole point of VPN providers. They’re not in your jurisdiction.

  • This goes far deeper than just “piracy”. Everyone’s favourite section 1201 of the DMCA also means that this bill will result in the US blocking foreign sites which explain to you how to fix your shit if you have to bypass even the most inane digital lock.

  • Like this will ever work. lol. Just don’t get VPN from a company that is headquartered in the US. Problem solved. There are a million other ways to bypass this. There will ALWAYS be away, they’re just trying to make it harder for the experienced, and impossible for your average Joe.

    • This is the same party that are all for unregulated AI use and no consequences for breaking copyright to train it.

      This bill’s goal is to provide a standardized mechanism to filter sites then start blocking sites that state doesn’t approve.

      It’s same as the other “think of the children” bills of the party that is protecting pedophiles.

    • The only way to stop it is buy severing all the cables and blowing up the infrastructure. They aren’t prepared to do that.

      • Literally. This is not a new “fight”. These corrupt, bribes-ridden fuckers have been “fighting” piracy since the inception of the internet, and they’ve always lost, and always lose.

    • They could also force ISPs to ban VPN IPs that don’t comply with their piracy blocking rules, regardless of whether they’re in the US.