• 9 days

    Jesus, that’s a bad headline. She wasn’t sentenced for the home birth; she was sentenced for her part and cover-up of her husband raping and impregnating their daughter. The lack of proper medical care is just part of the cover-up.

      • This is why they want homeschooling, much easier to abuse children away from prying eyes

        • This is sad, but true.

          At my first teaching job, a first-grader told her teachers and the principal that the bruises on her legs were from her mom hitting her with a belt. We reported it to Child Protective Services, and when they followed up, the mom pulled her out of school to “homeschool” her instead.

          Covering up physical abuse is one of many reasons why homeschooling needs more oversight.

      • It’s why they act like boots are so delicious. Not because they enjoy licking boots but because they see it as a necessary downside to a hierarchy existing that gives them full power over what they see as their domain. It might be their household, their land, their business, their social group.

        It’s why they get so upset at the idea of someone sharing information and think everyone should mind their own business (eg when cheating). It’s behind the “no snitching” mindset (though that one also has a dose of “not all laws are just” and my personal pov is that it is right to inform to help someone being hurt but it is not right to inform to hurt someone who is breaking some law without a real victim or a “victim” that themselves are hurting people but through legal means, which is why I hate thieves but don’t care about shoplifters at big chains). Though there’s also a tribalism aspect to that, where it’s acceptable to expose some cases of cheating if your loyalty to the victim should be higher than to the cheater, in their mind at least. And for some reason the idea that their own values can determine that loyalty others give them breaks their mind (eg “BuT fAmilY!” or “bUt <cheater> waS yOUr frIeNd fIIIrst!”).

        It’s a worldview that puts power above everything else, while the left cares more about how power is used with an emphasis on justice. And the reason that it’s an eternal conflict is that neither side are objectively wrong. Those with the most power do make the rules and can even break those rules because one needs power to enforce them. But also if the majority puts aside their own lust for power and works together for each other, than can overpower the powerful individuals and rule for justice instead of their own greed. But even then, opportunists will always be seeking their own power.

  • What’s even weirder is that they gave the mother 7 consecutive life sentences, but the father who actually impregnated the child only got 1 life sentence + 42 years.

      • They do it that way so even with good behavior or some appeals for a commuted sentence, still ends up being more years than they’ll live by a mile.

    • It also said that he was charged with the same 6 counts of child neglect though. So either the article was unclear on his actual sentence also being multiple consecutive life sentences or the charges of neglect didn’t all stick for some reason.

      I don’t have any specifics but it could be that the father was not in a position to actually be responsible for her care at some point. Maybe the mother kicked him out or something. I’m just speculating, though. No idea really.

      • It’s mostly what it sounds like. Prison until you die. But, unless given a life sentence without the possibility of parole, once you’ve served a minimum number of years (and that number varies on the crime, state law and judge’s applied minimums) you can become eligible for parole. What that means is a parole board can determine later that you have sufficiently served time for your crimes, that you are remorseful for them, and that you no longer pose a danger to anyone, and release you from prison before your death.

        When it comes to sentences with specific years attached, like this guy’s 42 year sentence, it is a bit difference. They can also end early with a parole decision, but there is a minimum time served for each sentence before you are eligible for parole. That minimum scales with the full sentence. It is, I think, usually 1/3rd of the full sentence, unless the judge sets a higher minimum.

        Also you can be given multiple years long sentences, one per guilty verdict, but depending on the judge’s discretion or if those crimes are statuarily required to be served consecutively (i.e. one after the other), sometimes those sentences are to be served concurrently (i.e. at the same time). What that means is, if you get sentenced to two 1 year sentences and a 3 year sentence to be served concurrently, you’re really only serving 3 years. But if have to serve them consecutively, you’ll be serving all 5 years in total. And your parole potential starts, thus, later.

        So it’s kind of complicated. Sometimes you see someone getting a life sentence and they’re released in 20 years. Sometimes you see someone get a dozen sentences but they’re all served concurrently and they’re out in a few years too. Sometimes someone gets multiple sentences to be served consecutively and ends up with like 200 years in prison and are essentially guaranteed to die in prison before they are eligible for parole, despite none of their crimes carrying a life sentence potential.

        Also this dude’s 42 years a life sentence are consecutive, so he must serve the minimum of both before possibility of parole. But that is probably about 35-40 years from now at minimum. I’m unclear if the mother’s 7 life sentences are consecutive or concurrent, but since they didn’t say, probably concurrent.

        • Thanks for all that explanation. It ended up in me being even more confused what the point of 7 concurrent life sentences is.

      • From a technical standpoint, getting multiple life sentences means if one gets removed on appeal, the others still stand.

        For the victim(s), especially if there’s multiple victims, each life sentence acknowledges each crime committed against them and validates them.

  • Such a difference between this and Epstein, while the subject of sexual abuse of minors is roughly the same. I guess the lesson is, if you’re gonna rape and pillage, first be filthy rich.

    • Really? Come on. That’s quite a stretch you’re making here - really grasping at straws to assume they might have voted for anyone other than Trump. The nerve.

      • No it can be just non political where the republican is too moderate so they don’t vote or only vote for a random third party. There are plenty of hard right people that don’t vote especially in deep red or non competitive areas.

  • Mom goes to jail, father gets a seat in Trump’s cabinet.

    • He got 87 years, a life sentence plus 42 years, consecutively. His life sentence won’t even begin until he’s been in prison for 42 years.

    • Article says he was sentenced to life+42 years before her. Good thing Trump’s got pardon powers, huh? 🤮

      • Presidential pardons can’t touch state-level convictions, only federal. That said, there’s nothing stopping the Oklahoma governor from issuing a pardon…

        • 8 days

          It wouldn’t be the first time Trump has leaned on a governor to pardon someone. That said, this is surely low even for him… Right?

    • I think this mainly comes down to the fact that abusive and manipulative men like this actively seek out women who will do what they say and enable their predatory behaviors.

  • This entire article and some clarifications in the comments make me feel sick. This entire story is fucked up and i wish I hadn’t read it. Poor child is traumatised for life

    • Sadder still, society will expect her get over it and carry on. Society doesn’t understand that there’s no “normal” for her any more.

      • Hopefully she can get a lot of help and therapy while she’s still young. Once you’re an adult no one gives a fuck what you’ve been through or what you’re going through.

        The bills won’t pay themselves. Food won’t magically show up just because you’re too mentally or emotionally fucked up to function like a normal adult.

    • Thank you for this warning.

      Someone once wrote a comment on the internet which i read, which said something like, " when you have a choice to look at something traumatic or not, you don’t have to look. "

  • Just another reason to make home “schooling” illegal. It enables abuse on so many levels.

    • You want to home school? No problem. Just need to make sure your home is up to the same standards as regular school.

      • Teacher with a master’s degree (depending on state)
      • ADA compliant with wheelchair access (so the inspectors can get in if they’re in a wheelchair of course!)
      • Kid still needs to take the same standardized exams as every other kid at the school.
      • Everyone in the home has to be up to date on vaccinations.
      • Everyone in the home must undergo a thorough background check.
      • Regular welfare visits since the child can’t be regularly observed by state employees five days a week.
      • i grew up homeschooled with extreme abuse, and have been saying this for years. i have gotten a surprising amount of pushback for it, even by friends who i consider progressive. it’s strange

        oh, and the adult administering the curriculum must be licensed to teach in that state and keep up with licensing. (my mom had the equivalent of a self taught 3rd grade level education)

      • That would still missing the key issue here: regular contact with children of the same age group.

      • They’d scream and cry that you’re trampling their rights. Though I absolutely agree with you.

      • Good luck getting any of that done if they claim they’re a “religious teaching institution.”

        • put that damn wall back up. they get sundays, real school gets monday through friday.

        • Like that pos nazi home schooling cult Americans have. I cant believe this is real life.

  • 9 days

    Yeah, the story isn’t about a mother giving shitty medical care to her daughter. It’s about how she got pregnant in the first place…