- m0stlyharmless@lemmy.zipEnglish9 months
It tracks that a fascist would present a picture of people who aren’t able-bodied white men and just assume that one should take that as intrinsically negative. It reveals their vile mindset.
madjo@piefed.socialNederlands
9 monthsAntifa has leaders?! Since when?
Also anyone who’s against antifa, is fascist. By definition.
- Bgugi@lemmy.worldEnglish9 months
Anybody who’s against North Korea is against democracy. Anybody who’s against nazis is against socialism.
- surewhynotlem@lemmy.worldEnglish9 months
Just to be clear, your implication is that Antifa isn’t actually anti-fascist, but is fascist themselves?
Do you realize how hard it would be for antifa, a decentralized concept that people self identify as, to band together to oppress everyone in favor of nationalism? And what nation would they be oppressing for?
If you are correct, and I want you be clear that you aren’t and you’re dumb, but if you are correct then I’m fucking impressed by antifa more than ever.
- felsiq@piefed.zipEnglish9 months
I think they’re just saying names aren’t always accurate, given the North Korea -> democracy (Democratic People’s Republic of Korea) and Nazi -> socialism (National Socialist) examples.
Antifa is great but sweeping statements based only on a name like the one they’re responding to are definitely not accurate
- gray@lemmy.mlEnglish9 months
This assumes that antifa is an organization of some sort. If you think of antifa as an identity or aspiration the statement makes sense.
Edit misspell
- Bgugi@lemmy.worldEnglish9 months
Felsiq is right on the money - it’s a braindead argument regardless of how you feel about antifa.
I don’t know why people itt keep saying that “it’s not an organization” somehow absolves it of any misdirection regarding its name.
I suppose a more direct comparison is “if you’re anti-pro-life, you’re anti-life.”
slothrop @lemmy.caEnglish
9 monthsIt demonstrates they don’t comprehend basic English - this statement included.
- FishFace@piefed.socialEnglish9 months
Not really. To you, antifa is a loosely-if-at-all organised collection of people united by opposition to fascism. To them, it’s a real organisation with actual members who use violence against the government. To you, because the collection isn’t really organised, the name determines what it is. To them, because it’s a real organisation, the name can be a lie and doesn’t matter. To you, direct action against the government is justified, because they’re in the process of creating a fascist state. To them, the government isn’t fascist, so action against the government can’t be on the basis of anti-fascism; antifa must therefore be a dishonest label.
- Scubus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish9 months
Ah, but you have made the classical mistake of assuming they think/ actually believe what they are saying and arent just trying to disenfranchise billions.
- FishFace@piefed.socialEnglish9 months
Who’s “they”, now? I think that plenty of politicians knowingly misrepresent things like this, but I don’t think the average Trump voter/Fox news watcher understands. Otherwise the politicians and the news just wouldn’t have to lie.
- Jack@slrpnk.netEnglish9 months
A friend asked me what is antifa… I started carrying crayons after that encounter.


