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- 7 days
I think it’s actually more appropriate to say that Europe is way further North than most people think based on its climate and such.
The only reason north west Europe’s climate isn’t more like Canada’s is because the Gulf Stream and AMOC drag heat up North from the Southern hemisphere.
- NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.worldEnglish6 days
Tbf, “global warming” is a myth. Well, more of a misnomer. On the other hand, climate change will fucking kill us all.
- Karjalan@lemmy.worldEnglish6 days
Tbf, “global warming” is a myth. Well, more of a misnomer
It’s neither of those things though.
It is a true and accurate description of the impact our actions are having on the planet. It is getting measurably warmer and faster even than the scientific models predicted when Inconvenient truth came out
The problem is that on an individual, day to day, experience, the “warming” is barely perceivable. Sometimes you’ll get record lows and other times record highs.
Climate change is probably a better term for it, because we are changing the climate, and that involves more than just warming (see ocean acidification). But the global average temperature is still increasing/warming.
Sorry for the pedantry. I realise you probably knew a lot/all of that, I’ve just seen too many bad faith actors in the realm of online climate change/global warming discussion.
- NιƙƙιDιɱҽʂ@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
Hey, no worries. My comment was not meant to be dismissive or fuel for climate change denial, more just a silly joke. I agree with you completely across the board. Honestly, over explaining in a context that can potentially be taken either way like my comment is completely understandable and welcome. Pedant away :)
- vaionko@sopuli.xyzEnglish7 days
I live in the equivalent of halfway up Alaska. It’s gonna be fun when the heat stops coming in
- architect@thelemmy.clubEnglish5 days
Most people meaning Europeans, from my experience.
The rest of us understand why we have things like air conditioning. Only Europeans seem to not understand they are from the north north.
- 6 days
don’t forget the ~30 degree tilt of the earth’s axis…
- MBech@feddit.dkEnglish6 days
Does that make a difference? I feel like that wouldn’t make a difference since the earth rotates?
- 5 days
Not in this discussion, since Canada and Europe are both in roughly the same latitude on the Northern Hemisphere and thus tilted by the same amount relative to the poles.
- heartSagan5@lemmy.zipEnglish5 days
sure, but Canada turns into a tundra (during winter) whereas the Atlantic currents bring warm temperatures from Africa, which is why London has fog; it’s where the warm currents exchange into cold air.
- MonkderVierte@lemmy.zipEnglish5 days
Just for comparison, this is what the “Southernmost Limit” of Canada looks like in Europe:
And Montreal & Ottawa is around Lake Lugano:
- Psythik@lemmy.worldEnglish6 days
As someone from the southwest US, I don’t understand how everyone in every European country isn’t absolutely freezing their tits off year-round. Something to do with the Gulfstream? IDK
- Lorindól@sopuli.xyzEnglish6 days
Scandinavia is hospitable to human habitation purely because of the Gulf Stream. British Isles and Northern Europe also enjoy much milder climates due to it.
Southern Europe gets its warmth mostly from Africa. Most of the Eastern Europe is far enough from the oceans to enjoy continental climate, which means very warm summers and cold winters.
- 5 days
In prehistoric periods they were freezing to death, homosapiens stalled out and died in Bulgaria in our first attempt to colonize Europe. The only reason that much of Europe is hospitable is because of the Gulf Stream, which I shall note is either at risk for or actively collapsing. I may be from SoCal but that sounds like a rather nice temperature personally, if my balls are outside of my body then it’s too warm, y’all have to be at the edge of frostbite for me to be comfortable.
- Soupbreaker@lemmy.worldEnglish5 days
Is that Greg Davies? Huh. Never been a Dr. Who fan, but I might check out that Christmas special.
- 7 days
You think Santa couldn’t manufacture missiles in his factories if he decided to?
- 7 days
Saint Nicholas Manufacturing, maker of the original Holy Hand Grenade
7 daysThe mainland US is crazily far south. I thought Washington would be level with London
- zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish7 days
I have always felt the opposite. Europe is way further north than I would have expected given their climate. I realize now it is kept warm by the gulf steam and North America get that in reverse, hence really cold eastern Canada and New England.
- alpine_jim@piefed.socialEnglish7 days
No reverse. New England and eastern Canada are warmed by the same currents too, albeit not as much. The heat generally comes from the Caribbean. North Korea and Hokkaido have far colder winters and milder summers at similar latitude.
- zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish7 days
I believe you actually have it backwards. Europe is warmed by the gulf steam, it cools off on the way back to Canada and the US. If the Gulf Steam is disrupted as predicted, the UK is going to be in for a really cold time.
Hamburgh may refer to: An older English spelling of the German city of Hamburg, used up until the 19th century, from which the other meanings below are derived
Huh. Maybe it’s the birthplace of the German Ebenezer Scrooge. “Bah, Hamburgh!”
I don’t think anyone is going to confuse the weather in Windsor, Ontario and Rome, though.
- Devadander@lemmy.worldEnglish7 days
Not yet. Global warming melting Greenland ice sheets is likely to cause the AMOC to slow / collapse, ending Europe’s temperate climate. This is possible within your lifetime.
- Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish7 days
Just to add some explanation on this for those who don’t know:
The AMOC, which is a massive circular oceanic current in the Atlantic, passes in a South-North direction at the surface near Europe, bringing warm water from Africa, which helps make Europe warmer (especially near the Atlantic) than it would otherwise be.
Hence why it slowing down or even stopping would end Europe’s temperate climate.
- JustTesting@lemmy.hogru.chEnglish6 days
From what I remember last time I read up on this, in conjunction with global warming, there is roughly a line from Paris to Frankfurt where more north than that, temperatures cool down because of AMOC collapse, and south of that temperatures are higher than pre-industrial because global warming outweighs AMOC collapse cooling.
But of course those are just relatively rough projections, and it’s average temperature, the extremes will still be way worse. So it’s not like Frankfurt will have peachy weather while the rest of the world goes to shit.
