- 9 months
Overall the problem comes from the fact that there is a difference between consensual and non-consensual sex, no matter the age. And yes there is the question of at what age can a person truely consent, but technically the word still applies for descriptive purposes.
So, for people above the legal age, rape is generally non-consenual sex. But below a magic age that isn’t consistent across the world, rape includes consenual sex. That causes there to be a gap in that there aren’t useful words to differentiate between consensual, and non-consensual sex with a minor. Some word argue there is no difference, but technically there certainly is.
You also have no easy way to describe sex with a very young kid vs a 17.9 year old. Yet they are certainly very different also. Since the world can’t agree on a static age for consent, and really everyone is different, so it just isn’t that simple, you can be sure that these differtiations matter to some people. In short, all rape is bad, but some is certainly even worse. But terminology doesn’t support differentiation. So news people make up thier own.Edit: I know it may have been hard to parse, but my intent here is to advocate for removing the ambiguity of what people have done. At this point “rape” means so many things that people no longer universally consider it bad. I can’t change those people’s opinions, but better terminology would help ensure those people aren’t discounting how bad a thing a person did was, just because we don’t have good terminology to communicate it.
Take statutory rape, it doesn’t distinguish enough.
If some 30 year old person ties down a fighting 5 year old and… straight to the gallows in my opinion. If a 18.5 year old has consenual sex with a 17.9 year old girlfriend, then the gallows seem a bit extreme. But they are both statutory rape technically. Better terminology would make it easier to assign even harsher penalties than are already assigned for the base case. And they could remove some of the wiggle room it gives judges to be lenient because “it would ruin his life”…- 9 months
This made me felt icky just reading it. The fact that you think there’s even a modicum of defense of this amazes me.
- 9 months
The only thing I defended was the news people making up thier own terminology in the absence of terminology with enough nuance to capture the details… Take statutory rape. It doesn’t distinguish enough.
If some 30 year old person ties down a fighting 5 year old and… straight to the gallows I say. If a 18.5 year old has consenual sex with a 17.9 year old, the gallows seem a bit extreme. But they are both statutory rape technically. Better terminology would make it easier to assign even harsher penalties than are already assigned for the base case. And they could remove some of the wiggle room it gives judges.- 9 months
Why are you trying to inject a terminology discussion into this? Everybody here is clear on what was going on. These were children who were trafficked as sex slaves. It isn’t a debate. You’re either part of a troll farm, or just a willfully dense individual with no actual social skills.
- 9 months
The post litterally contained “why is the press inventing the term…” I mean it is right there inviting a terminology discussion. But also, the lack of proper termonology has given defenders of rape an argument to distract from the crime. I want that taken away, and I want it clear what they did so people don’t just wave their hands and say… “but was it really”…
- 9 months
No, the post is very clear. The press is minimizing what happened. It doesn’t at all invite a terminology discussion. You’re being downvoted to all hell bcz you’ve doubled down on your stance no matter who you are talking too.
- 9 months
When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. Failure to look deeper then what you expected to see is why these problems with terminology and communication exist.
- 9 months
Inventing a term “Underaged Woman”
I agree; but don’t we call girls aged like 13-18 “young women”?
Ive never heard that females only become woman at age 18. (Not defending anything, but that point seems to be the weakest.)