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Ask Lemmy@lemmy.worldbyCyril Strobe@sh.itjust.works
9 days

Do EVs actually have a lower lifetime carbon footprint than gas cars?

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    • TheJesusaurus@piefed.caEnglish
      9 days

      Yes

        • Cyril Strobe@sh.itjust.works
          9 days

          Even with the rebound effect?

            • AMoralNihilist@feddit.uk
              9 days

              Yes. It is such a massive reduction, and the rebound effect is not that significant economy wide. Not to mention that we are continuously reducing fossil fuel based electricity, so every year the gap grows larger and larger.

                • Cyril Strobe@sh.itjust.works
                  9 days

                  Fair point. I just wasn’t sure that our renewable energy infrastructure was scaling that high

            • AMoralNihilist@feddit.uk
              9 days

              Fossil fuel companies and car manufacturers have been trying so hard to find any and every reason to say EVs are actually not better, despite all data saying to the contrary, and almost everyone that purchases one staying with them.

              First it was range anxiety, then it was batteries are bad for the environment too, then it is but they take more carbon to manufacture, I guess now it’s rebound effect. All the macro data we have shows them being a massive reduction. This is just more propaganda from oil and gas and companies like VW

              • AlphaOmega@lemmy.worldEnglish
                9 days

                Just like solar panels, eventually they offset the construction costs.

                  • Cyril Strobe@sh.itjust.works
                    9 days

                    What about the rebound effect? Do you have the stats to back up that claim?

                      • AMoralNihilist@feddit.uk
                        9 days

                        https://theicct.org/publication/electric-cars-life-cycle-analysis-emissions-europe-jul25/

                    • Grimy@lemmy.world
                      9 days

                      Holy mother of oil propoganda. OP is not here in good faith at all.

                      • mill_city@lemmy.zip
                        9 days

                        Yes, and the difference is massive.

                        There is an increase in emissions during manufacturing, but it takes less than 20,000 miles of driving before hitting the break even point.

                        After 10 years of driving, an EV will have caused less than half of the emissions of a similar gas powered vehicle.

                        https://www.factcheck.org/2024/02/electric-vehicles-contribute-fewer-emissions-than-gasoline-powered-cars-over-their-lifetimes/

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