• acargitz@lemmy.ca
    14 hours

    It’s become a meme to ask Americans at what point they will use their supposed 2nd amendment rights to start shooting at magas. And it has become similarly a bit of a meme to laugh at the ignorant non-americans for suggesting it.

    But let’s be real. When the magas are threatening to abolish your democracy, you yanks need to make a counter-threat of violence to keep it. It doesn’t even need to be “serious”. That drunk “we have guns too” lady is actually a fantastic start. But it needs to be followed up by more senior Democrats and I’m not talking about chuck schumer, just someone above “drunk candidate in Fayette county”. Someone needs to say that if the Republicans enact martial law there will be blood. Say it jokingly. Say it in wacky wink wink way. But fucking say it. Get your wackiest weirdo politician to actually put the gun on the table.

    If you don’t, then at some point it becomes a matter whether you actually care about your democracy. Like, fuck, maybe you don’t.

  • Greyghoster@aussie.zone
    17 hours

    This whole thing smells like a long rung plot leading to a coup. A whole bunch of rich conservative men are seeking to overthrow the US constitution and take the reigns themselves via proxies. All this is supported by Russia and China and anyone else that wants a bigger share of the world for themselves.

  • tangeli@piefed.socialEnglish
    20 hours

    If they truly care about voter fraud, they should override Trump and ensure external election observers are present at all polling stations and throughout the counting.

    If they truly want martial law until the election is confirmed, to ensure the election wasn’t ‘rigged’, they should invite a UN peace keeping force to administer it.

    But, somehow, I suspect their motivations aren’t based on any concern for legality, justice or democracy.

    • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
      12 hours

      They should just skip the whole walk around the park and just give their supporters brown shirts, arm bands and some kind of blunt force weapon (with no restrictions) … and to keep them motivated in the evenings, get them to parade around with torches at night

    • MrSelfDestruct@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      7 hours

      Nazis actually took a lot of cues from us. Especially our treatment of Native Americans, African slaves, eugenics.

  • Pratai@piefed.caEnglish
    19 hours

    It’s very telling they they say if “he” loses the midterms. HE is not running. But they all know what it means. If THEY lose, he’s either being put IN a prison or UNDER one.

    Fingers crossed it’s the latter.

    • krashmo@lemmy.world
      15 hours

      His first term was much like this one. Not quite as bold in the corruption category but still similar. Biden had four years to do something, anything, about it and decided not to. Despite the fact they obviously should, they’re not putting Trump in prison this time either.

    • StabbingSky@lemmy.zip
      17 hours

      They’ll wait until Vance can run for 2 terms, but they’re definitely going to kill him.

  • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
    20 hours

    Trump isn’t running in the midterms; he’s supposed to not have a horse in the race.

    Congress though? THEY could lose the midterms. Congess isn’t supposed to be a bunch of presidential yes men. Trump isn’t supposed to be the party leader.

  • finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.worldEnglish
    14 hours

    Last time Martial Law was declared across the entirety of the US was 1862, when Lincoln enacted it, but applied it to specified categories of people (rebels, and those aiding them). But this is straight up Nazi shit.

    Who oversees the National Guard if (when) they declare the Democrats cheated (because that will be the orders they’ll be given, in no uncertain terms, on the quiet)?

    Trump is no doubt sprouting a chubby little mushroom stalk at the idea.

    What legal preventatives are available for the Democrats to stop this shitfuckery before it starts? It’s a grey area whether or not Trump needs Congress or the Senate’s approval to enact Martial Law, but it’s not really been taken to court, AFAIK, to test. Plus, he ignores them as if he’s forgotten they exist, anyway, pulling Executive Orders out of his arse as if they were on a roll of toilet paper he lost up there during a particularly energetic ‘Truth’ Social rant.

    Australian here, BTW. So there’s a lot I don’t know about US politics. But I do know Martial Law wouldn’t be good for free and open elections.

    • theneverfox@pawb.socialEnglish
      7 hours

      What is declaring martial law going to actually do? All it means is the military can legally perform police actions

      We already have brown shirts running around, and our military has been maliciously complying with orders intended to terrify the public since Trump returned to office. The funniest part was watching them resist the urge to march during his little parade, you could see their steps start to naturally sync before they went back to walking

      Trump can declare martial law if he wants to, but there’s a reason he hasn’t so far. And it’s not because of his good nature, it’s because threatening it makes him feel strong but actually doing it is going to make him look weak