Edit: The “free territory of Ukraine” is another name for Makhnovhschina
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Смерть всім, хто стоїть на перешкоді здобуття вільності трудовому люду!
Fed to a translation tool is supposedly
Death to all who stand in the way of gaining freedom for the working people!
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Roughly: “Death to all who stand at barrier to achieve freedom of working people”
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I hold this question every time I see a 0.01% controversial post or comment on lemmy, but in this case I elected to actually write it -
Who the hell downvoted this? Is it *that* inaccurate?
3 daysNo, it’s pretty close. Seeing as I don’t see the downvote and my instance is defederated from the tankie triad, probably some tankie rolled in to downvote anything related to Ukraine.
Definitely tankies. Not just on Ukraine but they hate anarchists for some reason. Once I said that I support anarchism, and someone just trolled me and said “EnGeLs sAiD tHiS oN wHy AnArChIsM SuCkS aNd yOu sHoUlD dIe”. I rebutted as to why he is quoting a man as if he’s Jesus and why still support an ideology that had proven itself to be self-collapsing.
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Because they don’t really support it and don’t really believe in it. And they aren’t interested in being correct either. Back then it was a time for [some] of their families when they had a possibility to steal from and oppress people with their comfortable ass never being punished and they just want it back or someone (fsb) is feeding them promises about such life (which will never happen anyway) while using them as
puppetscum socks for prolongement of such a world state, in which fsb’s comfortable ass stays in power, tortures innocents and not receives enough what they really deserved (Ukrainian text on post’s picture describes very well what exactly they deserved — death for everyone (especially chekists) standing on our way to liberation). Most definitely mentioned “someone” was just another fsb kremlinbot — i highly recommend to ignore them and if possible ban them straightforward or reply with real arguments (not for the sake of replying to bots since it’s pointless and they aren’t designed to ever be sane, moral and humane, but to show real people that there’s still sanity in others) and beforehand… prepare yourself good not to fall in their psyop traps such as framing or personal assaults, whataboutism, switching roles (such as “we are victims”, “we are denazificators”, “we aren’t occupative, we just want peace and we are right”, “they started first”, “our atrocities? look at this sloppy pic of poor ruzzian children being crucified by reptilians — and this certainly happened”, “there are no millions of corpses buried in secret mass graves of red terror”, “yes, you are in fact correct — it’s all wrong and must end. exactly. yeah. we must win at all costs — even by killing our own families and friends” etc.). imo, people who are interested in how to protect oneself from psyops and soft endocrination of radical ideas will just go and search themselves for further info.They are using same core techniques and their purpose is more to piece everyone off and shit as much as possible to make certain places on the internet unattractive and unusable for an adequate individuals, but they are designed to look differently and have different “opinions”, idk whether lemmy’s functionality lets them appearing as groups and even reply to each other to make an illusive “conversations” in the comments, but on some platforms it’s also the case for quite a long while.
Also, another type of the same shit kremlinbots is so-called cuntbots, which just spam porn everywhere. However, their main purpose is the same.
I am not sure if this is meant to be satirical or not. Although (/srs) most Ukrainian anarchists are currently siding with Ukraine and Ukraine just lets them. The general consensus is that overthrowing the govt will put the liability of fighting another govt on the Anarchists (well, duh). Scroll to the bottom of the English Wikipedia page “History of Anarchism in Ukraine” for more info.
Ah, Makhno, thx. I suck at history, I just don’t have the memory. Ya know, neurodivergency not dialed in right or something.
nationalism? in my flippanarchy? it’s more likely than you think
